GDT: 2018 WJC • Game 31 • Gold: SWE (1) - CAN (3) F

[Snauen]

what a crock of ****. When it comes to pressure Swedish players just wilt. History has shown us that. 0 wins in 4 gold medal games against Canada. 44 and 0 in preliminary rounds, yet dreadfully poor in medal rounds having only fluked 2 golds in all its history. While Canada has 17 golds.

Canada > Sweden, always was always will be.

Ok, I'll bite on this post. You know wich players that have reputation of beeing clutch generally and turning it up a noch come playoff time in the NHL. Swedish players! Its well known. Sure there are Canadian Justin Williamses too, yet far more of Silfverbergs, F. Forsbergs and Arvidssons compared to the amount of Swedes in the NHL compared to others. Swedes are known to turn it on when things matter the most. Strange enough its the other way around in the wjc. Why is Canada never in the Swedish pool in the WJC? My guess is that Canadians have been at it again and rigged the groups on purpose for a reason. Canada is a good team, and surely Sweden wouldnt have had a 44-0 record had they met Canada in the round robins some times over theese years. Canada does everything possible to avoid meeting Sweden as long as they can at the WJC, that is why Swedens got this 44-o0 record

 

[Pouchkine]

I'm very much looking forward to the olympics and I hope we will see less cautious hockey. The Olympics were much better in 1992 and 1994 than in 2014 so go figure.

 

[Zippgunn]

Orwell was right: if you want to start trouble between two nations and don't want to resort to actual warfare just organize a sporting event between them...

 

[Chimpradamus]

I see its not just the players.

This is not a tournament to write home about for your players or fans that is for sure. You havent done your country proud one bit with these after a stinging loss antics.

You know the reason you guys fail so much in big games?...........................this is the reason.

You don't take responsibility for your failures, thats why.

Until you figure that out continue to enjoy what you historically get.

And no one is going to feel the least bit sorry for you with that chip on your shoulder.

Yes, because if we would've reversed the teams, the scenario and the outcome, this thread would've been filled with Canadians praising the game, the opposing win and how justified the win was, right? Wrong. Canadian fans basically blow up the forum if things don't go their way, so step off the pedestal and stop pissing and moaning about how the losers should feel.

Is it so incomprehensible to see why the Swedish players were so sad and so pissed off after the game? Apparently it is. I will remember this thread when Canadians cry about the refs in some Stanley Cup finals, where the penalties were utterly lopsided or they felt their team got jobbed. I will remind you that your home team deserved to lose, regardless of circumstances and that you are crybabies if you ever criticise anything but your own team. Because you're superior Canadians who understand the game in your genes, right?

I'm fine with the loss and the game, but I can see how some fans weren't and I certainly can see how players on the Swedish team were angry and sad about the loss. Heck, when you have multiple, level headed Canadians being surprised about the reffing, you know the reffing was iffy. Apparently impossible to see for some, so let's direct the attention of your own inadequacies towards those pointing it out instead.

I'm not sour about the loss, because I hardly care about the outcome in sports anymore, I just watch it for simple entertainment. 5 minutes after any outcome, the result doesn't matter. It's just a game. It still was a more entertaining game than basically any NHL game this season though, so I'm really glad I stayed up for it. Not that it's difficult to be more entertaining than a NHL game these days.

There was 17k and to be honest the crowd was very silent. One of the most boring Canadian crowd ever, at least they showed up and they were almost all in red but they brought close to zero atmosphere. Maybe it's a Buffalo thing!

17K?! Most of the time it sounded like 300 people. It was more of an audience than fans indeed. I have never heard 17K people being so silent before, I think.

 

[jj cale]

Yes, because if we would've reversed the teams, the scenario and the outcome, this thread would've been filled with Canadians praising the game, the opposing win and how justified the win was, right? Wrong. Canadian fans basically blow up the forum if things don't go their way, so step off the pedestal and stop pissing and moaning about how the losers should feel.

Is it so incomprehensible to see why the Swedish players were so sad and so pissed off after the game? Apparently it is. I will remember this thread when Canadians cry about the refs in some Stanley Cup finals, where the penalties were utterly lopsided or they felt their team got jobbed. I will remind you that your home team deserved to lose, regardless of circumstances and that you are crybabies if you ever criticise anything but your own team. Because you're superior Canadians who understand the game in your genes, right?

I'm fine with the loss and the game, but I can see how some fans weren't and I certainly can see how players on the Swedish team were angry and sad about the loss. Heck, when you have multiple, level headed Canadians being surprised about the reffing, you know the reffing was iffy. Apparently impossible to see for some, so let's direct the attention of your own inadequacies towards those pointing it out instead.

More confirmation on your lack of personal responsibility for losses.

You know, if this happened only on the odd occasion you might have a point but considering Swedens win record in big games at this thing no matter who they face in elimination games a bell should go off in you and your players heads that maybe just maybe you are doing something wrong and failing to get the job done.

At some point it will be very beneficial for you and your players to finally look into the mirror and say to yourself..."is it me?"

Until then.......................enjoy the results!! You will be getting a lot more of them there round robin champs.

 

[blindpass]

Yes, because if we would've reversed the teams, the scenario and the outcome, this thread would've been filled with Canadians praising the game, the opposing win and how justified the win was, right? Wrong. Canadian fans basically blow up the forum if things don't go their way, so step off the pedestal and stop pissing and moaning about how the losers should feel.

Is it so incomprehensible to see why the Swedish players were so sad and so pissed off after the game? Apparently it is. I will remember this thread when Canadians cry about the refs in some Stanley Cup finals, where the penalties were utterly lopsided or they felt their team got jobbed. I will remind you that your home team deserved to lose, regardless of circumstances and that you are crybabies if you ever criticise anything but your own team. Because you're superior Canadians who understand the game in your genes, right?

I'm fine with the loss and the game, but I can see how some fans weren't and I certainly can see how players on the Swedish team were angry and sad about the loss. Heck, when you have multiple, level headed Canadians being surprised about the reffing, you know the reffing was iffy. Apparently impossible to see for some, so let's direct the attention of your own inadequacies towards those pointing it out instead.

I'm not sour about the loss, because I hardly care about the outcome in sports anymore, I just watch it for simple entertainment. 5 minutes after any outcome, the result doesn't matter. It's just a game. What do riles me up though, is bad reasoning.

17K? Most of the time it sounded like 300 people. It was more of an audience than fans indeed.

You are actually wrong. After Canada was eliminated in 2016 most of the sentiment on forums like this and in the media was that the team failed because of a lack of discipline.

Half of that might have been the joy at getting to tear into whipping boy Virtanen (Marner got a pass despite being part of the problem), but there was a recognition that they didn't deserve to win. The Finns who eliminated then and went in to win the tournament were given the credit and respect they deserved and a think a lot of people were happy to see the home team thrill their fans.

None of this is to say that officiating can't be a problem or even that it isn't ever justifiable to complain about it. This just isn't such an instance.

Again, can only say sorry it didn't go your way and that you can't find any way to enjoy or respect the sport unless your team prevails.

Edit:. Where are these "level headed" Canadians who were puzzled by the reffing? Notoriously unbiased Bob MacKenzie? Nope. Who? Fact is it was a well officiated and we'll played game. In the end the team that won was the one that kept their composure the best.

 

[Classicnamesup]

It's easier to blame conspiracies and allege cheating than face your shortcomings.

 

[Snauen]

More confirmation on your lack of personal responsibility for losses.

You know, if this happened only on the odd occasion you might have a point but considering Swedens win record in big games at this thing no matter who they face in elimination games a bell should go off in you and your players heads that maybe just maybe you are doing something wrong and failing to get the job done.

At some point it will be very beneficial for you and your players to finally look into the mirror and say to yourself..."is it me?"

Until then.......................enjoy the results!! You will be getting a lot more of them there round robin champs.

Uh, I think Dahlin does not look much in the mirror, hes got a case of teenage facial acne, , remember I did despise mirrors at that time

 

[Chimpradamus]

More confirmation on your lack of personal responsibility for losses.

You know, if this happened only on the odd occasion you might have a point but considering Swedens win record in big games at this thing no matter who they face in elimination games a bell should go off in you and your players heads that maybe just maybe you are doing something wrong and failing to get the job done.

At some point it will be very beneficial for you and your players to finally look into the mirror and say to yourself..."is it me?"

Until then.......................enjoy the results!! You will be getting a lot more of them there round robin champs.

It was dumb of me to get involved in this irrelevant mob talk again. Pardon me. I'm out. The guy who implied why I even debate was clearly right.

 

[Snauen]

It's easier to blame conspiracies and allege cheating than face your shortcomings.

Yeah you lost one last close game out of 10 against the worlds best, what a short coming!

 

[Classicnamesup]

Yeah you lost one last close game out of 10 against the worlds best, what a short coming!

I understand why you do this to cope. I don't take it personally, get it out. We all need our methods.

 

[Snauen]

It was dumb of me to get involved in this irrelevant mob talk again. Pardon me. I'm out. The guy who implied why I even debate was clearly right.

Kudos for your posts you have made so far here Chimp, the ones I've read have been pretty decent texts!

 

[Hyzer]

I'm unsure it was fair to say that the game was officiated correctly. I'm definitely happy that Canada won but the reffing was... interesting. They often let the Canadian lads play but then the Swedes would do the same thing and get called for it. Was definitely a head scratcher at some points, I'll tell you that.

 

[LaP]

It's easier to blame conspiracies and allege cheating than face your shortcomings.

It works both way to be honest. It's easy to talk about conspiracy when you lose but it's also easy to close your eyes on incompetence when you win. Both should never ever be done imo.

It was a great game and both team played great. It could have gone both way but Canada won and they did not steal this win. They can be proud. Anyone saying the refs were sold just have no clue.

But let's make no mistake the refs really did a very terrible job and missed some very evident calls on the Canadian side. I have no problem with refs storing their whistle but it must goes both way. In the middle of the 2nd i think a Sweden player totally carried a Canadian player on his back from behind his net to the blue line with no call. I watched the replay on my PVR and there was actually 3 moves in the whole sequence the ref could have called. Not calling this in a game where the Canadian team had 5 PP was just sheer incompetence.

The guys who reffed this game should never ever ref again in any important international events. Not a single game they just are not good enough for this level of hockey.

 

[Snauen]

I understand why you do this to cope. I don't take it personally, get it out. We all need our methods.

Hm, jepp, I guess that goes for you too then. Your way of copeing whit my point of views is to write them of as me coping whit a loss. Could be that this kind of loss gets me creative also and me wanting rotten things in hockey to change for the better

 

[TimeZone]

I'm very much looking forward to the olympics and I hope we will see less cautious hockey. The Olympics were much better in 1992 and 1994 than in 2014 so go figure.

Wait, you're actually going to watch that shitshow?

 

[Mr Hat]

Hm, jepp, I guess that goes for you too then. Your way of copeing whit my point of views is to write them of as me coping whit a loss. Could be that this kind of loss gets me creative also and me wanting rotten things in hockey to change for the better

Know what's rotten in hockey that needs to change for the better? Whining like a little bitch after your team embarrases itself after a loss with player comments that belong on a sweet 16 reality show where those spoiled brats get million dollar parties.

Seems more rotten than one missed call on Canada when the refs also short blew a whistle to save a sure goal on a bonehead move by the goalie. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I just want to say this.. 1:40... this is what it means to come up huge when it counts.



don't see how Batherson doesn't get an assist on that .. at least its not on the IIHF Stats page.

 

[blindpass]

Hm, jepp, I guess that goes for you too then. Your way of copeing whit my point of views is to write them of as me coping whit a loss. Could be that this kind of loss gets me creative also and me wanting rotten things in hockey to change for the better

What's rotten is poor sportsmanship.

If the loser always tries to diminish the winner it hurts the sport. The amazing thing in this thread is the serious lack of an any specific complaints -- just generic "Canada got away with so much". What? Be specific. We can all agree that it should have been a penalty on Timmins hooking/holding Pettersson. Outside of that there's precious little. Liljegren dropping his stick? It wasn't broken, he just dropped it - if I'm a ref I'm a bit suspicious of that, seems like a good no call.

From memory I could come up with plenty of things to question the other way of I was inclined. Was there a pick (interference) on the shorthanded goal? Probably a good non-call but accidental or not that collision did free Soderlund to move in for the shot. This is all garbage though. The refs they pick are excellent and do as good a job as you can expect humans to do. It is easy to nitpick, but there was so little wrong with the officiating of that game we can't even get a handful of specific complaints from a motivated group of biased whiners.

 

[Snauen]

Know what's rotten in hockey that needs to change for the better? Whining like a little ***** after your team embarrases itself after a loss with player comments that belong on a sweet 16 reality show where those spoiled brats get million dollar parties.

Seems more rotten than one missed call on Canada when the refs also short blew a whistle to save a sure goal on a bonehead move by the goalie. But that's just my opinion.

Ya Im really sorry for you, firstly Andersson throwing the medal and now this, dont know how you will survive over there in Halifax and Nova Scotia after this?

 

[boozeash]

I'm not too sure why Swedish players act so surprised and disappointed when they lose to Canada. They always lose to Canada......I think it was Rasmus DAhlin who had what i viewed as a disrespectful interview.

 

[Snauen]

Know what's rotten in hockey that needs to change for the better? Whining like a little ***** after your team embarrases itself after a loss with player comments that belong on a sweet 16 reality show where those spoiled brats get million dollar parties.

Seems more rotten than one missed call on Canada when the refs also short blew a whistle to save a sure goal on a bonehead move by the goalie. But that's just my opinion.

It such a hypocrisy, I have heard some of the "thrash talk" on the ice and then minutes later a reporter comes up whit a mic. in your face and all of a sudden Hockey Canada only accepts robotic answers from the players, whit no connection to the actual game what so ever.. You hypocrites, most of you know the strong emotions on the ice/of the game very well, and I know you know

 

[Mr Hat]

It works both way to be honest. It's easy to talk about conspiracy when you lose but it's also easy to close your eyes on incompetence when you win. Both should never ever be done imo.

It was a great game and both team played great. It could have gone both way but Canada won and they did not steal this win. They can be proud. Anyone saying the refs were sold just have no clue.

But let's make no mistake the refs really did a very terrible job and missed some very evident calls on the Canadian side. I have no problem with refs storing their whistle but it must goes both way. In the middle of the 2nd i think a Sweden player totally carried a Canadian player on his back from behind his net to the blue line with no call. I watched the replay on my PVR and there was actually 3 moves in the whole sequence the ref could have called. Not calling this in a game where the Canadian team had 5 PP was just sheer incompetence.

The guys who reffed this game should never ever ref again in any important international events. Not a single game they just are not good enough for this level of hockey.

I'm not sure where people think all these "good" refs are hiding. Tim Peele has reffers over 1000 games in the NHL and is absolutley incompetent. Truth is hockey is too fast for a high quality of reffing and every game the standards are up to a refs discretion. They have bad games just like players do.

 

[Mr Hat]

It such a hypocrisy, I have heard some of the "thrash talk" on the ice and then minutes later a reporter comes up whit a mic. in your face and all of a sudden Hockey Canada only accepts robotic answers from the players, whit no connection to the actual game what so ever.. You hypocrites, most of you know the strong emotions on the ice/of the game very well, and I know you know

Yup. Emotion is for on the ice, off ice personalities need to be in the best interest of the image of Hockey Canada. Dahlin was free to say he was upset with some calls, but if you completely discredit the other teams win and say that your countries values are superior.... That crosses a very obvious line and is disgraceful.

Edit: I am not saying this is a generic sweden thing either. I've heard comments from a number of players just as smug. Just makes me hate them, they are still good players.

 

[headup]

You know. Have been there before and knew how it would end. Have been thru team Sweden having to live in piss poor Baracks in Ottawa before that finals. I have seen Bäckströms suddenly discovered allergy medication by Canadian meds before that final in the OG. I know you do everything to win, and to get "the edge".If Canada win they will have cheated their way to doing so, its in their hockey culture and they have that much respect for Swedish hockey, in important games, they feel they've got to cheat in one way or other, nothing you say changes that, its there, from years of experience., Im not a fan of urs, sorry

This is honestly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.