GDT: 2018 WJC • Game 31 • Gold: SWE (1) - CAN (3) F

[Zybalto]

Why are some here complaining about the IIHF refs like they havnt seen this tournament before?

It's not bias folks, it's the random ineptness that comes with the junior ŕefs and it's affected Canada just as much as other countries in the past.

 

[Cynick]

Do they throw the Conference trophy into the stands too?

That would be amazing.

 

[Cynick]

The time has come for video reviewing every single penalty. Hopefully the IHF will implement this before the olympics (wishfull thinking)

No, this is not the time. It will never be the time. This is a dreadful idea that would ruin the sport.

 

[fredligh]

Same thing happened in 2009. Sweden gets all riled up and tries to play a “Canadian game” against Canada and end up taking a bunch of stupid penalties, and ultimately end up losing the game

Agree, so tired of media driving the narrative as well. The only thing it does is making the players lose their discipline. Just play the skill game and ignore the dirty play and maybe we have a chance to win....ffs

 

[jj cale]

No. It would not have been. If Pettersson would have slapped the stick out of the hands of Makar, that should/would have been a penalty. But when it is against Liljegren, all of a sudden we are cool with it.

Yeah................sure.

Things will get better in a week for you, dont fret.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Hopefully Andersson is banned from any future international tournaments.

It's probably the best for him anyhow because he's going to lose a lot.

you can’t be serious.

Sure it was unprofessional and not what you’d expect from a captain but he’s a kid.

What’s more ridiculous? A kid acting like a kid or a grown ass man on the internet piling all over said kid?

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

The refs were a non-factor. The level of play was pretty even until the third where Canada wanted it more. You got the feeling that it was only a matter of time, and once they scored the go-ahead goal you knew it was over.

The best team won. Sweden was an excellent opponent and the US had a strong team as well.

 

[Snauen]

Why are some here complaining about the IIHF refs like they havnt seen this tournament before?

It's not bias folks, it's the random ineptness that comes with the junior ŕefs and it's affected Canada just as much as other countries in the past.

What is the point of having a game wich the ones who knows how to handle the unskilled refs best wins? Let the refs use video-help if they cant keep up or are uncertain. Sure it will make the games longer, skip the power brakes then, and insert comercials in the "ref-video-time". Would make things much better in the world of hockey

 

[Cynick]

Hopefully Andersson is banned from any future international tournaments.

It's probably the best for him anyhow because he's going to lose a lot.

A potentially impulsive action by a teenager should not be met with what appears to be an equally impulsive action proposed on online hockey forum.

The ideal consequence here should be the IIHF saying to themselves, "Who cares?" and then moving on.

 

[CB Joe]

What is the point of having a game wich the ones who knows how to handle the unskilled refs best wins? Let the refs use video-help if they cant keep up or are uncertain. Sure it will make the games longer, skip the power brakes then, and insert comercials in the "ref-video-time". Would make things much better in the world of hockey

If you don't understand the calls you can find the IIHF rule book here: IIHF Rule Book

 

[Snauen]

If you don't understand the calls you can find the IIHF rule book here: IIHF Rule Book

Uh,. Its not about me, its about making international hockey a credible sport, not a farse

 

[Pouchkine]

Game was clearly fixed for TSN and those who use this tournament as a big cash grab. 6vs.1 Penalties in a final in hockey you NEVER see that and it clearly wasn't the reality, it should have been 6-4 or something. Joke tournament all around and Canada still had trouble winning. The worst U20 ever this year both in terms of crowds and games. I say this as a neutral...

 

[Hit the post]

I swear, NA hockey culture wants all their players to be such boring robots. Who cares what he does with the medal? Retired footballers auction off their Superbowl rings, why is that ok but throwing the medal to a fan is not?

I'll admit, I loved this scene in the following classic movie....

 

[Pookie]

I don't get the argument and denial of both sides.

As a Canadian, I can freely admit that the ref should have called the stick slash. That's called 99 times out of 100. And 100 times out of 100 if you've sent the other team to a PP twice with 10 mins to go in a Championship game.

If you can't acknowledge that, you've never watch the game with any degree of seriousness and you should consider turning in your Team Canada sweater.

Now in saying that, there's no indication that the outcome of the game is any different if the call is made.

Sweden had 36 shots on net and the same 60 mins to play. Score. Win. That simple. The game doesn't boil down to one call or one non call.

 

[Pouchkine]

It's not just one call it's 6 penalties to 1 penalty, this never happens in hockey finals. It should have been 6-4 in all honesty.

 

[Pouchkine]

To be honest it was not a high quality final.

 

[Devils Dominion]

It's a lack of maturity. It's what kids do they act and react based on emotion and don't think things out. His inability to restrain himself shows he has growing up too do. Sure he'll be a a solid NHL player for a long time but this is a captain, which makes it worse, acting like a spoiled little baby.

He will regret doing it at some point.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

As usual on this site clowns are going to pile on a kid for getting emotional after a loss. I'm not going to get into the "have you even played hockey at a high level" **** swinging contest people usually go to so instead I'll just ask if you are literal robots? As a Canadian good for him, he's a competitor losing makes him angry that's going to make him a better player.

Edit: banned from future competitions? Jesus Christ.

 

[blindpass]

Swedish fans are not complaining about the penalties they got (well, maybe one dive), but about the double standard and non-calls in the other direction. You can surely call interference on Lindström if you set your bar there, but then you need to call it throughout the game. Canada got away with all their holds and slashes, while never being punished for their embellishments.

Sweden just wasn't very disciplined, Canada was. Canada flamed out in 2016 because of bad discipline and the reaction in Canada, overwhelmingly, was to blame the team for it, not the refs. The organization clearly learned from that because the team played with great discipline in the final and that was a key factor in the victory. Sweden had the better PP and PK from what we saw - trading PPs would have been great for them.

There just weren't a lot of missed calls against Canada or any evidence of a double standard. If you want to disagree offer specific examples and when they add up to more than a goal (lost to quick whistle) we can begin to discuss the idea that Canada benefited from the reffing -- which is still a long way from proving bias.

Sweden all around should be proud of the talent of their team, but disappointed of the lack of discipline they showed. From Steen and Gustafsson's ugly slashes on Yamamoto and Timmins, to Anderssen's childish antics, it is pretty remarkable that the reaction is to look outside the team and blame the refs. The more skilled team lost in the Gold medal game and Sweden will suffer the same fate again if they don't self-reflect and understand that they can't blame anyone else.

 

[TheTwelfth]

Sweden just wasn't very disciplined, Canada was. Canada flamed out in 2016 because of bad discipline and the reaction in Canada, overwhelmingly, was to blame the team for it, not the refs. The organization clearly learned from that because the team played with great discipline in the final and that was a key factor in the victory. Sweden had the better PP and PK from what we saw - trading PPs would have been great for them.

There just weren't a lot of missed calls against Canada or any evidence of a double standard. If you want to disagree offer specific examples and when they add up to more than a goal (lost to quick whistle) we can begin to discuss the idea that Canada benefited from the reffing -- which is still a long way from proving bias.

Sweden all around should be proud of the talent of their team, but disappointed of the lack of discipline they showed. From Steen and Gustafsson's ugly slashes on Yamamoto and Timmins, to Anderssen's childish antics, it is pretty remarkable that the reaction is to look outside the team and blame the refs. The more skilled team lost in the Gold medal game and Sweden will suffer the same fate again if they don't self-reflect and understand that they can't blame anyone else.

So, Petterson's hold, Liljegren's slash, Kyrou's dive. That is minus 1 goal for Canada on the Liljegren, plus 3 powerplays with an expected 0.62 goals coming gained for Sweden...and that is just from memory.

EDIT: 3 powerplays, not 4

 

[blindpass]

I don't understand why some people think that the refs gifted this game to Canada. It was just a poorly officiated game all round. Did the refs miss some calls that should have been penalties against Canada? Yes, but they also robbed Canada of a goal in the first period with a super quick whistle. Both teams got screwed by the zebras in different ways.

I don't see it as poorly officiated. The quick whistle was unfortunate, but understandable. I think they got most of the calls right. I'd have called Timmins on Pettersson hooking (though it was unmistakably a flop by Pettersson too). Outside of those two I don't know that there was another significant mistake.

 

[helax]

Congratulations Canada, next year

 

[Pouchkine]

There was a clear holding in the first period when the penalties were still 1-1 and on the empty net goal there was a clear hooking. The thing is in hockey especially in big games the penalties NEVER finish this lopsided 6-1 it never happens and it shouldn't have been that lopsided in reality yesterday either. Clearly this tournament now is only a big cash grab and tsn cup.

 

[maclean]

Can we lock this already?

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

TSN did a break down of each call. Hard to argue with them. Canada probably should have got a few more penalties though.