2017 WJC Failure?

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Although I personally love your CanAm Summit Series idea, I wonder if the top brass of both countries would think that this would take too much of a physical toll on the players. When those countries get together on a sheet of ice it becomes war! That's what would make it so fun to watch, but the injury risk in that series would be abhorrent.

Hockey Canada didn't seem to have a problem with it in 2007 vs Russia. Wonder if the Americans would be up for it?

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Yes please.
 
All the corporate media keeps talking about is how great of a game this was, without criticizing the format. And it was a great game, up until the shootout. But let's just say what they are unable to say - this tournament is a joke. Deciding elimination games via a shootout is an individual contest no different than fastest skater, it is not the game of hockey. They might as well play carry-the-egg-in-the-spoon for all I care.

Allowing the same player to go multiple times in a shootout is even more of a joke, turning a team sport into even more of an individual contest. Don't tell me these kids wouldn't stay and play if you kept running the clock.

This was by far the worst world juniors I've ever seen. What a joke.
 
Some of you are nuts.

I loved this tourney. Now I didn't attend (will next year in Buffalo) so I can't speak to the corporate stuff, but the games I watched were fantastic. They were well played, passionate, close.

I think it helps me that the US won, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching Russia, CAN, the Swiss were fun. Those locker room celebrations by Denmark... this was a huge success.
 
All the corporate media keeps talking about is how great of a game this was, without criticizing the format. And it was a great game, up until the shootout. But let's just say what they are unable to say - this tournament is a joke. Deciding elimination games via a shootout is an individual contest no different than fastest skater, it is not the game of hockey. They might as well play carry-the-egg-in-the-spoon for all I care.

You know they decide Olympic medals and World Cups in soccer the same way, right?

I'm not saying it's right necessarily, but come on, it's not like the IIHF invented the practice of ending a gold medal game with a shootout last night.
 
Agreed. Wasn't impressed with the tourney. No bias, USA were solid. But they were 50/50, not dominant. But oh boy, Sweden was a bust -- they will be known as choke artists. Too good, just mentally fell apart.
 
Hockey Canada didn't seem to have a problem with it in 2007 vs Russia. Wonder if the Americans would be up for it?

Philadelphia
Boston
St. Paul
Detroit
Toronto
Winnipeg
Edmonton
Vancouver

Yes please.

"Vs Russia". I'm sorry to tell you this but playing Russia is NOT the same as playing the US from a physical standpoint. Though Russian teams will play more body than they did before they started integrating with North American teams, they are still not quite at that same level. The animosity between Canada and Russia isn't what it once was either. The Canada Russia series in November has very few instances where it looks like it's going to boil over. You put Canada and the US in a long series like that and you're going to need some body bags.
 
I assume the only reason he thinks last year's semis/finals was better is because he's Finnish. Not sure how one could think that other than pure bias.

Well, those were pretty good games last year. I certainly won't deny that. But there is no way anybody could watch these last few games and not think they were fantastic. It sounded like that guy hadn't actually watched this year's games, but felt inclined to criticize them anyway. Makes no sense.
 
Ah it's just the juniors anyway. It's painfully overhyped as it is. Kids skate fast and try hard but can't string two passes together.

Credit to my wife for calling Canada blowing a two goal lead in the final because "they're kids, they'll make stupid plays whether they're leading or not".
 
Ah it's just the juniors anyway. It's painfully overhyped as it is. Kids skate fast and try hard but can't string two passes together.

Credit to my wife for calling Canada blowing a two goal lead in the final because "they're kids, they'll make stupid plays whether they're leading or not".

Which is what makes it exciting. Are you such a big fan of watching 2-0 games in the NHL? It's this time of year when I transition from watching the WJC back to the NHL when it's hardest to watch the NHL. Soon I'll get used to the lackadaisical pace and it won't be an issue anymore. Then they'll dial it up for playoffs, of course, but that's a long ways away.

Oh, and your wife gets little credit for predicting a junior team blowing a two goal lead. :shakehead
 
Some of you are nuts.

I loved this tourney. Now I didn't attend (will next year in Buffalo) so I can't speak to the corporate stuff, but the games I watched were fantastic. They were well played, passionate, close.

I think it helps me that the US won, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching Russia, CAN, the Swiss were fun. Those locker room celebrations by Denmark... this was a huge success.

Any hockey tournament decided by a skills competition is a failure. Add the atmosphere in Montreal, the lack of star players and what will be a TV ratings trainwreck and you get an epic failure.
 
Nope, because I thought it was going to be on tonight. Shows little interest I had in the tournament after we were done with it.

But that's exactly my point. Both semis and the GM game were phenomenal ! How can you criticize something you didn't see? As a Finnish person, there is little doubt that you would favour a tournament where your team wins over one where they face relegation, but you need to see things from a wider perspective.
 

Poor kid. I've heard people saying it'll take time to get over that. The truth is he won't ever get over that. He'll take that miss to his grave.

Hopefully he takes the Marc Andre Fleury route and wins a cup with Columbus
 
"Vs Russia". I'm sorry to tell you this but playing Russia is NOT the same as playing the US from a physical standpoint. Though Russian teams will play more body than they did before they started integrating with North American teams, they are still not quite at that same level. The animosity between Canada and Russia isn't what it once was either. The Canada Russia series in November has very few instances where it looks like it's going to boil over. You put Canada and the US in a long series like that and you're going to need some body bags.

Curious, but did you watch the 2007 Summit Series? Those 8 games weren't exactly what I'd call friendly, despite Canada dominating the thing.
 
All the corporate media keeps talking about is how great of a game this was, without criticizing the format. And it was a great game, up until the shootout. But let's just say what they are unable to say - this tournament is a joke. Deciding elimination games via a shootout is an individual contest no different than fastest skater, it is not the game of hockey. They might as well play carry-the-egg-in-the-spoon for all I care.

Allowing the same player to go multiple times in a shootout is even more of a joke, turning a team sport into even more of an individual contest. Don't tell me these kids wouldn't stay and play if you kept running the clock.

This was by far the worst world juniors I've ever seen. What a joke.

Wonder where were your complaints back in 2007 when Canada beat the US in a shootout?
 
You know they decide Olympic medals and World Cups in soccer the same way, right?

I'm not saying it's right necessarily, but come on, it's not like the IIHF invented the practice of ending a gold medal game with a shootout last night.

This, shootout was a thing in international way before the NHL. It was very exciting before the NHL went to the format and killed the gimmick.
 

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