WC: 2017 Team Sweden

[jfc64]

Lindberg as winger to Bäckström?

 

[joe89]

^ We are done with additions assuming the new guys play tonight. 3G, 7D, 15F final roster.

 

[VictorLustig]

Ok, let's switch PP1 with 2. Haven't been impressed with that top line the last two or three games.

 

[EK47]

Ok, let's switch PP1 with 2. Haven't been impressed with that top line the last two or three games.

I really don't think they actually are the top line I just think they were playing Landeskogs line more because of possible Bäckström Jetlag.

However that should have been adjusted as soon as they realized that wasn't the case

 

[ulvvf]

I think Grönborg is holding the players back alot and make them play very safe to minimaze the misstakes and goal against. Because basically no player espically the d-men are playing at their normal level, they fell very passive, pretty much all of them, and that is not how they normally play. We saw the same thing in world cup, he makes the team play very passive.

On the positive side, Nylander and Bäckström looked pretty promising.

 

[VictorLustig]

I really don't think they actually are the top line I just think they were playing Landeskogs line more because of possible Bäckström Jetlag.

Hope so, we can't afford to have our most talented players on the 2nd unit. I also want to see Klingberg on that 1st PP.

 

[Eye of Ra]

w.karlsson and söderberg are very meh so far, they are not giving us any secondary scoring and they not gritty or physical. Eriksson Ek is a disappointment so far aswell. and omark...dont get me started....

we should have choosed more euro players to the team, möller - kruger - lindström as a 3rd line would have been deadly. that line would have give us points, grit and chemistry.

 

[Eye of Ra]

against slovakia i want to see,

lindberg - bäckström - nylander
landeskog - rask - lindholm
eriksson ek - kruger - everberg
Nordström - Lundqvist - Klingberg

2 scoring lines and 2 really hardworking lines.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

So much for Nylander-Backstrom not working well together lol. Everytime they were on the ice I was getting Soviet vibes. So fluid.

 

[Eye of Ra]

So much for Nylander-Backstrom not working well together lol. Everytime they were on the ice I was getting Soviet vibes. So fluid.

yeah they where great...i liked how lindberg played aswell....he is a nice fit with nylander and backstrom.

 

[Bloomfield*]

I think Grönborg is holding the players back alot and make them play very safe to minimaze the misstakes and goal against. Because basically no player espically the d-men are playing at their normal level, they fell very passive, pretty much all of them, and that is not how they normally play. We saw the same thing in world cup, he makes the team play very passive.

On the positive side, Nylander and Bäckström looked pretty promising.

Grönborg is a worse barry trotz. If sweden dont take gold with this team he should be fired.

 

[EK47]

Hope so, we can't afford to have our most talented players on the 2nd unit. I also want to see Klingberg on that 1st PP.

Agreed. They made it painfully obvious that there shouldn't even be any doubt which line is supposed to be out there for 1 and a half minutes on the powerplay. Klingberg OEL can play the primary pp minutes since Hedman and strålman are being heavily relied upon on the PK (also Klingberg is clearly a better pp option than Strålman). I'd even want to see Klingberg and OEL play together 5v5 they seem to have chemistry.

 

[Bloomfield*]

Edler is past his prime. Klefbom is better than that guy.

 

[EK47]

Edler is past his prime. Klefbom is better than that guy.

I think they just need to utilize Edler better and they will have a more well functioning defense, probably have him play with a more defense oriented dman in Brodin and he wouldn't look that out of place I also think that putting OEL with Klingberg full time would boost them both

 

[Bloomfield*]

I think they just need to utilize Edler better and they will have a more well functioning defense, probably have him play with a more defense oriented dman in Brodin and he wouldn't look that out of place I also think that putting OEL with Klingberg full time would boost them both

Yeah the d pairings are pretty awful.

Garpenlöv, popovic does not inspire confidence. Why didnt boustedt clean house when grönborg took over?

 

[Nithoniniel]

I haven't liked how we utilize our D-men since years back. Grönborg should take a look at Nashville to see how you can utilize an elite defense to actively impact games. We did the same thing in the World Cup, assembled a defense for the ages and ran a system that seemed designed to shelter a weak back end.

Also didn't really like our second powerplay unit. Our main weapons there would be Bäckström as a half-board QB and Nylander as a dual threat, so it would make sense to play them on opposite sides where they can look for each other across the box and give us a threat from several directions. Instead they hide Nylander in the corner where we don't really utilize him much at all. It just didn't seem to make sense to me.

 

[Bloomfield*]

I haven't liked how we utilize our D-men since years back. Grönborg should take a look at Nashville to see how you can utilize an elite defense to actively impact games. We did the same thing in the World Cup, assembled a defense for the ages and ran a system that seemed designed to shelter a weak back end.

Also didn't really like our second powerplay unit. Our main weapons there would be Bäckström as a half-board QB and Nylander as a dual threat, so it would make sense to play them on opposite sides where they can look for each other across the box and give us a threat from several directions. Instead they hide Nylander in the corner where we don't really utilize him much at all. It just didn't seem to make sense to me.

Sweden could use you instead of garpenlöv.

 

[Phil McKraken]

I haven't liked how we utilize our D-men since years back. Grönborg should take a look at Nashville to see how you can utilize an elite defense to actively impact games. We did the same thing in the World Cup, assembled a defense for the ages and ran a system that seemed designed to shelter a weak back end.

Yeah, I said the exact same thing during the World Cup. By making them play a low risk grinder game, Grönborg effectively neutralizes what makes many of our defensemen so good to begin with. You could just as well have had Brodin and Larsson as the main D guys back then, and it wouldn't have made much difference.

I love when Hedman goes on those offensive rushes like he did tonight. He actually reminds me of Lemieux when he does that, in that he's so big and fast that no one can stop him. He obviously doesn't have close to Mario's finishing ability, but he's still an amazing offensive weapon to have in the arsenal. The problem is that whenever he does things like that, the rest of the team seems confused, like it's not part of the game plan. Grönborg needs to build the system around the talents of the best players instead of just throwing them into something else and hoping for the best.

 

[TheTwelfth]

Edler is past his prime. Klefbom is better than that guy.

I'd prefer Larsson. Gives us 3 RHDs, and he has a proven track record of pairing up really well with OEL.

I haven't liked how we utilize our D-men since years back. Grönborg should take a look at Nashville to see how you can utilize an elite defense to actively impact games. We did the same thing in the World Cup, assembled a defense for the ages and ran a system that seemed designed to shelter a weak back end.

Also didn't really like our second powerplay unit. Our main weapons there would be Bäckström as a half-board QB and Nylander as a dual threat, so it would make sense to play them on opposite sides where they can look for each other across the box and give us a threat from several directions. Instead they hide Nylander in the corner where we don't really utilize him much at all. It just didn't seem to make sense to me.

Can someone tell me why Sweden keeps using 2 dmen on the PP. I can see OEL and Klingberg being on the same unit, but why is Strålman on the PP over a fourth forward? Just throwing in Söderberg infront of the net, allowing Landeskog to work along the boards would be better than having a defensive D on the ice for 1 minute + in the offensive zone. I could even consider Lundqvist as a faceoff specialist and net-front presence while allowing the skill guys to work along the perimiter.

PP1:

---------------------Klingberg-----------------------
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Bäckström/Ekman-Larsson ---------------Nylander
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--------------------Lindberg-------------------------
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Omark/Bäckström----------------------------------
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Pretty similar to WSH powerplay with Lindberg/Omark playing the roles of Oshie/Johansson. Have Bäckström control most of the play, and use a RHD on the point which Bäckis prefers to do with the Caps. Alternatively, if wanting a more defensive/our best players playing, switch out Omark for OEL and have Bäckström play more below the goal line.

PP2:

---------------------Hedman------------------------
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Rask --------------------------------------Lindholm
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--------------------Lundqvist------------------------
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Landeskog------------------------------------------
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[LiveeviL]

I'd prefer Larsson. Gives us 3 RHDs, and he has a proven track record of pairing up really well with OEL.



Can someone tell me why Sweden keeps using 2 dmen on the PP. I can see OEL and Klingberg being on the same unit, but why is Strålman on the PP over a fourth forward? Just throwing in Söderberg infront of the net, allowing Landeskog to work along the boards would be better than having a defensive D on the ice for 1 minute + in the offensive zone. I could even consider Lundqvist as a faceoff specialist and net-front presence while allowing the skill guys to work along the perimiter.

PP1:

---------------------Klingberg-----------------------
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Bäckström/Ekman-Larsson ---------------Nylander
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--------------------Lindberg-------------------------
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Omark/Bäckström----------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------

Pretty similar to WSH powerplay with Lindberg/Omark playing the roles of Oshie/Johansson. Have Bäckström control most of the play, and use a RHD on the point which Bäckis prefers to do with the Caps. Alternatively, if wanting a more defensive/our best players playing, switch out Omark for OEL and have Bäckström play more below the goal line.

PP2:

---------------------Hedman------------------------
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Rask --------------------------------------Lindholm
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--------------------Lundqvist------------------------
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Landeskog------------------------------------------
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I speculated about using 2 D-men on the PP for Sweden before the tournament. The reason as I took it then is that the D-men simply are better. Hedman, OEL and Klingberg have had a lot of PP time and done it well. The rest of the 3 NHL D-men have had a lot of PP time too, with varying success. But 7 PPP for Strålman during regular season is decent, not totally fair to call him "a defensive D".

Söderberg has done nothing this season to warrant PP play over Strålman. Heck all our NHL D-men have more PPP this season than Söderberg.

 

[Bloomfield*]

Yeah, I said the exact same thing during the World Cup. By making them play a low risk grinder game, Grönborg effectively neutralizes what makes many of our defensemen so good to begin with. You could just as well have had Brodin and Larsson as the main D guys back then, and it wouldn't have made much difference.

I love when Hedman goes on those offensive rushes like he did tonight. He actually reminds me of Lemieux when he does that, in that he's so big and fast that no one can stop him. He obviously doesn't have close to Mario's finishing ability, but he's still an amazing offensive weapon to have in the arsenal. The problem is that whenever he does things like that, the rest of the team seems confused, like it's not part of the game plan. Grönborg needs to build the system around the talents of the best players instead of just throwing them into something else and hoping for the best.

Grönborg is not a gambler. He is the definition of safe and it never pays off

 

[TheTwelfth]

I speculated about using 2 D-men on the PP for Sweden before the tournament. The reason as I took it then is that the D-men simply are better. Hedman, OEL and Klingberg have had a lot of PP time and done it well. The rest of the 3 NHL D-men have had a lot of PP time too, with varying success. But 7 PPP for Strålman during regular season is decent, not totally fair to call him "a defensive D".

Söderberg has done nothing this season to warrant PP play over Strålman. Heck all our NHL D-men have more PPP this season than Söderberg.

Strålman is quite defensive if you compare using a forward over him. I just threw in Söderberg because he is a big body to put in front of the net, but I much prefer Lundqvist because he also brings that great faceoff skill. It is a waste that Landeskog is parked in front of the net like a Holmström because we ice an extra defenseman. OEL and Klingberg have enough offensive poise to work in tandem over an extra forward, but it pushes Nylander/Bäckström down into the corner instead of having them on the half-wall.

 

[BonAppleTea]

I think Grönborg is holding the players back alot and make them play very safe to minimaze the misstakes and goal against. Because basically no player espically the d-men are playing at their normal level, they fell very passive, pretty much all of them, and that is not how they normally play. We saw the same thing in world cup, he makes the team play very passive.

On the positive side, Nylander and Bäckström looked pretty promising.

Yea if the world cup showed anything it is that Grönborg really shouldn't coach the kind of talent we have on the back end. We have huge offensive potential from our defenders but barely use it effectively at all

 

[FinnishCoyote]

How has OEL played? Haven't watched any games

 

[21]

It is a waste that Landeskog is parked in front of the net like a Holmström because we ice an extra defenseman.

Yes, you are right, Grönborg is seriously misusing and underestimating Landeskog. Of course Landeskog handles this role well too (because he is unafraid and physical) but he is such a great allround player and shouldn't be stuck in a role like this. I have always felt Landeskog is a guy who can play on any line and in almost any situation out there, very allround.

Landeskog is +9 so far, am I right, that's pretty impressive, perhaps best in the entire tournament?

I wonder how good Landeskog will be within 4-5 years if he manage to keep himself free from concussions and injuries. I am pretty sure he will be a stud, the kind of player you will trust in playoffs, clutch.

Regarding his captaincy I don't care much about it. I strongly think he is the biggest leadership talent in hockey ever come out of Sweden but it unfortunately didn't work out for him in Colorado anyway.

Best for him would probably be focusing on his play and career and then he can become a captain again with 6-7 years winning a couple of cups. I want to see Landeskog in a more physical NHL team than Colorado, a team like Anaheim would be perfect for him or a Canadian team where they appreciate a guy like Landeskog.