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Alessandro Seren Rosso said:
I agree. Best on best is 22 vs 22. What's the point in having "depth"?
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Well for starters it means icing an overall-stronger group of 22 than other teams most of the time.

It also means being able to lose Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin and Jeff Carter and replace them with Logan Couture, Ryan O'Reilly and Corey Perry.
 
Fantomas said:
I agree that Nichushkin is not the most agile guy. He is an excellent north-south skater though.

His needs to show a high compete level. Without it he's worthless.
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Looks almost like he stopped training, maybe he wasnt expecting to end up there. Definitely the agility and stamina is off. BTW I would like to see Kaprizov too, but even before Nichushkin I would rather see someone like Slepyshev. He had an excellent finish with EDM.
 
Yakushev72 said:
Nichushkin came out of junior hockey with World-class potential, but then he suffered a hip injury so severe that he essentially had his hips replaced. That is very unusual for a guy that young, and he never fully recovered from where he was as a rookie with the Dallas Stars.

He was so big, strong, and at the same time, fast and agile on his skates. He could take the puck the length of the ice, fake to the inside, then use a burst of speed to the outside and get below the defensemen's shoulder pads, which would enable him to cruise to the net. That's how he scored the goal that won the Bronze Medal in Ufa in the WJC. If he could recover that ability, he could surprise a lot of people!
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Thank to all for information about him.
And yes that is what i remember of him before the injuriy..he looked like a star player i had big hopes for. I am staying positive but we will see...
 
Yakushev72 said:
Nichushkin came out of junior hockey with World-class potential, but then he suffered a hip injury so severe that he essentially had his hips replaced. That is very unusual for a guy that young, and he never fully recovered from where he was as a rookie with the Dallas Stars.

He was so big, strong, and at the same time, fast and agile on his skates. He could take the puck the length of the ice, fake to the inside, then use a burst of speed to the outside and get below the defensemen's shoulder pads, which would enable him to cruise to the net. That's how he scored the goal that won the Bronze Medal in Ufa in the WJC. If he could recover that ability, he could surprise a lot of people!
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Well, he always was kinda a one-trick pony. He was so big and fast for juniors, but as soon as he came to the NHL, it turned out he wasn't that big for the league (still fast though). And he isn't very good in finishing and playmaking even on the KHL level. I mean, you can't compare him to Kaprizov, Kirill is on the whole level or two above.
 
Kshahdoo said:
Well, he always was kinda a one-trick pony. He was so big and fast for juniors, but as soon as he came to the NHL, it turned out he wasn't that big for the league (still fast though). And he isn't very good in finishing and playmaking even on the KHL level. I mean, you can't compare him to Kaprizov, Kirill is on the whole level or two above.
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I recall him being pretty good in the KHL playoffs that one year, and having a decent nhl rookie season afterwords. Its more a case of physical injury stunting his development, rather than people figuring him out. If nt for injury I feel he would have been a 25-25 goal/assist power forward by now, which is nothing to sneeze at.
 
Kshahdoo said:
Well, he always was kinda a one-trick pony. He was so big and fast for juniors, but as soon as he came to the NHL, it turned out he wasn't that big for the league (still fast though). And he isn't very good in finishing and playmaking even on the KHL level. I mean, you can't compare him to Kaprizov, Kirill is on the whole level or two above.
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He is not a playmaker for sure, but his finishing skills are good enough, and he manufactures a lot of breakaway situations by leaning in on defenders at a radical angle and using power and speed to just blow around them. That was his trademark before the injury his second season in Dallas, when he missed 6 months of the season. We will see if he can recover to his previous potential.
 
Yakushev72 said:
He is not a playmaker for sure, but his finishing skills are good enough, and he manufactures a lot of breakaway situations by leaning in on defenders at a radical angle and using power and speed to just blow around them. That was his trademark before the injury his second season in Dallas, when he missed 6 months of the season. We will see if he can recover to his previous potential.
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24 points in 36 KHL games don't say a lot about a good finishing skill.
 
Nichuskin and Ovechkin are 2 different players though, one can defend and sometimes even creating goal situations while other one mostly can only shoot one-timers and lately don`t even trying to help defensively (past 5 years at least)
 
Raptor1990 said:
Nichuskin and Ovechkin are 2 different players though, one can defend and sometimes even creating goal situations while other one mostly can only shoot one-timers and lately don`t even trying to help defensively (past 5 years at least)
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Ovi was different a little bit at age 22.
 
Ovechkin hasn't really looked like himself this year, it's true. It's unfortunate and I hope he improves next year but the best Russian forwards right now are Panarin, Kucherov, Malkin and Tarasenko.
 
We need to beat USA in regulation tomorrow, so this way Sweden can jump them in the standings and go to the other bracket, and play against Canada in 1/2

Sweden with Nicky and Lundqvist are more scarier.
 
Orlov's constant mental mistakes have been successfully transferred from Caps to team Russia. He shouldn't be on this roster. Kuznetsov actually as been pretty good, specially defensively.
 
Kshahdoo said:
24 points in 36 KHL games don't say a lot about a good finishing skill.
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Its really rare for a guy as big as he is to move the way he can. I don't if he will be good again or not, but he was the 10th pick in the NHL draft in 2013, so someone was impressed with him.
 
thestudent said:
Finland loses big tonight against Canada and then you guys got problems... big problems
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I think Russia`s chances without Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Tikhonov and several other pretty close to useless players have pretty good chances against equal teams such Canada/Sweden/Finland/Czechs and of course USA even they have youngest team on this tournament.

Because when all 5 players attack and defend which should modern hockey look like its great difference when you have 4 players on ice and that 5th one is just waiting for pass to shoot one-timer and suddenly after that receive goal in own net because certain player was unable/unwilling to skate with the opposite player and defend him before he score the goal...

You know 4 players are less that 5... :D
 
Now given that USA finishes 1, Russia 2, Sweden 3 and Canada 1 in the other group - How will the semifinals look like? Given the fact that all of the named 4 advance, the semis should be USA - Russia and Canada - Sweden? Or am I wrong?
 
Robban7 said:
Now given that USA finishes 1, Russia 2, Sweden 3 and Canada 1 in the other group - How will the semifinals look like? Given the fact that all of the named 4 advance, the semis should be USA - Russia and Canada - Sweden? Or am I wrong?
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Canada-Russia and USA-Sweden barring an upset
 
LeafalCrusader said:
Canada-Russia and USA-Sweden barring an upset
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Are you sure or just guessing? Because I think they are going with the format of team 1 and 2 in the group shouldnt be able to play a final against each other? So that should make Russia playing USA in a semi, no?
 
Robban7 said:
Are you sure or just guessing? Because I think they are going with the format of team 1 and 2 in the group shouldnt be able to play a final against each other? So that should make Russia playing USA in a semi, no?
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Winners of A1 vs B4 and B2 vs A3 play each other and B1 vs A4 and A2 vs B3 play each other.

A1 (US) vs B4 (Czech/Fins)
B2 (Switzerland) vs A3 (Sweden)

B1 (Canada) vs A4 (Germany/Latvia
A2 (Russia) vs B3 (Czech/Fins)
 
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