WJC: 2017 Sweden Roster Talk

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Filip Ahl is a mysterium. He brings nothing to the table. He just exists on the ice doing nothing. Jonathan Davidsson should have made the team instead.

I wonder if he was picked on the back of one good game against the Russians on Eriksson Ek and Nylander's line. If so, it was a big gamble that's not looking good at all. Beyond that one game he's never been good outside of SuperElit. He looked bad in SHL, bad in Allsvenskan, bad at the U18 World Championship. Judging just from statistics, he doesn't seem to be a driving force for his WHL team this season either, considering he's 6th in team scoring and 5th in ppg.

Also Montén doesn't seem to like Karlström. He's barely played so far. You'd think at least one of Ahl and Karlström is going to have to play some minutes going forward.
 
What do you guys think about the PP? I'd give L. Carlsson and Dahlin a look. Carlsson brings a simplistic style and a shot, this has worked well in the past in this tournament. Forsling especially but also Wikstrand, Djoos and Bengtsson you could peg as that type of safe pass/shooting type mentality. Dahlin can simply do things no one else can, the only thing I wouldn't do is play him with 4F because that's no doubt gonna cost a shorty at some point.
 
What do you guys think about the PP? I'd give L. Carlsson and Dahlin a look. Carlsson brings a simplistic style and a shot, this has worked well in the past in this tournament. Forsling especially but also Wikstrand, Djoos and Bengtsson you could peg as that type of safe pass/shooting type mentality. Dahlin can simply do things no one else can, the only thing I wouldn't do is play him with 4F because that's no doubt gonna cost a shorty at some point.

I'd try Bernhardt on the powerplay. He's got a great shot and is a decent passer. I don't think he should be playing as much as he is at even strength, but the PP has always been his bread and butter. That said, I don't know that Sweden has a real shot at a medal at this tournament if Larsson isn't at least close to the best defenceman. Playing him at least some on the powerplay might help his confidence.
 
I'd try Bernhardt on the powerplay. He's got a great shot and is a decent passer. I don't think he should be playing as much as he is at even strength, but the PP has always been his bread and butter. That said, I don't know that Sweden has a real shot at a medal at this tournament if Larsson isn't at least close to the best defenceman. Playing him at least some on the powerplay might help his confidence.

Larsson could remain on a unit, but maybe with Dahlin? I think that would be pretty reasonable. Dahlin can roam freely and Larsson can be the typical quarterback.
 
Larsson could remain on a unit, but maybe with Dahlin? I think that would be pretty reasonable. Dahlin can roam freely and Larsson can be the typical quarterback.

Well, they seem to have settled on a 1-3-1 kind of powerplay, which I'm sure is what they've practiced. You could put Dahlin in the high slot, where Dahlén is now on the first formation, but I don't think his shot is what makes Dahlin special. In this sort of formation, his position is probably the QB's, which as you say is a risky spot for him.
 
Filip Ahl is a mysterium. He brings nothing to the table. He just exists on the ice doing nothing. Jonathan Davidsson should have made the team instead.

To be fair, he only got like 7min against the swiss.
 
To be fair, he only got like 7min against the swiss.

As a Sens fan I would love to say Ahl is doing great. I do not think he suits the style of game at all. He is big and seemingly slow. He is a front of the net guy who can pot garbage goals. I do not see a good fit for him in the lineup.

I would love to see Gundrstom with Eriksson Ek and Nylander. I would put Dahlen with Pettersson and Andersson

on Kylington; I see good skating, good hands, good athleticism, but lacks IQ
 
I would just replace Larsson with Dahlin on the PP against the Finns and just hope for the best, then try maybe Bernhardt if it doesn't work out. Probably better to experiment in this game than against the Czechs. Don't think the PP has been a big issue so far though but Larsson may not have the ability to open things up, this is where a RHD like Lindgren, Bouramman or Liljegren could have come in handy.
 
I'm not worried about Kylington at all. His skating and puckhandling are already elite and he's grown so much defensively in the last year.

Yes, he makes lots of risky plays and sometimes that leads to chances against, but I'd rather him be confident enough to make those plays than do what 90% of all other hockey players do and be too afraid to take those same risks because they're afraid they'll get benched by the coach.

Kylington could very easily stop making those plays and look just like every other D-man out there. But I'm glad he doesn't, because it makes for fun and exciting hockey. Coaches have made hockey so dull these days that it gets boring to watch sometimes. But players like Kylington are what provide hope for the future. They're the players who are confident enough in their abilities (even if lots of his moves don't work out) that they make the game exciting.

He'll definitely take some of those risky plays he makes out of his game as he continues to progress but for the most part, I'm very happy he hasn't completely changed his game and shifted to playing a typical boring style that is so common in today's D-men.

Also, I think people have been extra negative on Kylington these first two games because he gets the most ice time among all Sweden players and combine that with the way he plays the game, it's IMPOSSIBLE not to notice him so it's easy to pick him apart considering a player who plays as much as he does is bound to make some mistakes.

That's the problem. If he was smart enough to gauge when the right time was to make those plays, he would be like Giordano. Unfortunately, since his mistakes creates more then a few 2 on 1's against per game, he is more like Wideman. The risks when he's the last man back are not very well calculated. Maybe he should have been a forward.
 
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Since he do so many mistakes, I want people that whine so much on Kylington to mention 10 big mistakes from Kylington from one game.

For one thing Kylington is probably the best back checker in the team and he hasnt done as many mistakes as people are making it sounds like, even if there are a few. He has at least been better than, Larsson, G Carlsson, Bernhardt and Gunnarsson, even if he hasnt been as good as I hope.
 
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That's the problem. If he was smart enough to gauge when the right time was to make those plays, he would be like Giordano. Unfortunately, since his mistakes creates more then a few 2 on 1's against per game, he is more like Wideman. The risks when he's the last man back are not very well calculated. Maybe he should have been a forward.

I literally haven't seen more than one (if that) odd man rushes with Kylington on the ice so far this tournament, whereas I've seen a couple without him on. His skating allows him to make those risks and get back in time if he doesn't accomplish what he was intending.

While he should probably limit the amount of risky plays he makes, he hasn't come close to costing Sweden a goal against (minus his very first shift of the tournament)
 
Must be pretty sad for Liljegren sitting at home watching the travesty that is our defensive core, especially on the PP. Amazingly bad(not by him) that he didn't make the team.
 
I literally haven't seen more than one (if that) odd man rushes with Kylington on the ice so far this tournament, whereas I've seen a couple without him on. His skating allows him to make those risks and get back in time if he doesn't accomplish what he was intending.

While he should probably limit the amount of risky plays he makes, he hasn't come close to costing Sweden a goal against (minus his very first shift of the tournament)

Your right. He hasn't had a lot of mishaps this tournament, but I'm talking through about larger body of work with every time I've seen him in Stockton, preseason and various prospect camps. I'm still rooting for the guy to work out his kinks, but I'm worried about his need to be flashy.
 
This rotating on D has to stop.

Yup.

Today was focusing on Bernhardt (for obvious reasons as Flyers prospect).

He played with 5/6 of the other D for at least a shift. And played both sides (though tbf only ~3 shifts on the right, when with Kylington).

At one point he had 3 shifts in a row with different partners (Kylington, Dahlin then L. Carlsson).

By looks of it was pretty much the same for all the Dmen.
 
I thought Kylington was quite good today. He did indeed have one bad turnover but other then that he posted solid. Nothing too fancy but still skewing the puck into the offensive zone. And even after his mistake he back-checked like crazy and got a very important block.
 
I thought Kylington was quite good today. He did indeed have one bad turnover but other then that he posted solid. Nothing too fancy but still skewing the puck into the offensive zone. And even after his mistake he back-checked like crazy and got a very important block.

Agree. He was good today, except for that one shift.
 
While Pettersson has been a disapointment so far, he isnt getting the minuts to turn it around, he is getting 10min (that is 4th line minuts). One could think that the coach would try to make him going since he could be a real impact player, instead of giving players like Lööke close to 16 min, that hasnt been better and their is no upside there to get. We can not expect that the Nylander line will play like gods in every game, they need backup and Lööke will not be that.
 
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Missed the game but it sounds like Finland played their best game in the tournament and could've easily won?
 
Kylington just needs to learn to become part of the team offensively and then he will be a great player. He just seems to have this desire to dazzle but he just needs to realize if he simplifies his game he's going to be an absolute stud.
 
Missed the game but it sounds like Finland played their best game in the tournament and could've easily won?

I missed the 3rd period so dont know about it but Finland were better in the 1st, Sweden was a lot better in the 2nd and according to the shots also in the 3rd.

I think the rotating on D will continue until QFs
 
Missed the game but it sounds like Finland played their best game in the tournament and could've easily won?

No, in the end the score matched the game picture. Finland was good for like 20 minutes, other than that there was no fire in their players
 
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