So these are two people who did not see him, but they know it's not a loss. That is encouraging
WJC: 2017 Czech Republic Roster Talk
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So these are two people who did not see him, but they know it's not a loss. That is encouraging
czechcanadian
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My thoughts based on the U-19 tournament. Watched most of it.
Kodytek, No
Didnt really impress me. Yeah he made some nice passes and plays but he never really stood out. I dont see him having an impact at the WJC. Hes tiny and doesnt possess the speed and skill required to be useful imo. Hope im proven wrong. I do still like him but its really tough on the NA sized rinks for small guys.
Reichel, Yes
Again not a stand out player, but he has a great shot and hockey IQ. I can definitely see him being drafted in the later rounds come summer time...
Kvasnicka, Yes
Fantastic play maker and could be a real threat on the PP. Very fast skater and super smart with the puck. A lot like Hronek.
Kurovsky, Sure
I understand we need a big presence on the ice. Im ok with him being taken. Good player on the forecheck. Suitable on the 4th line.
Kvaca, Yes
Although he was bad in the game against Russia, it was a poor effort by the whole team. He's only going to be 3rd string in my eyes (if we end up having 3 goalies). Skarek should remain 2nd.
Other guys that should have made it.
Ondrej Prochazka,
Super underrated 19 yr old player. This is Hockey Canada's evaluation of him before the tournament.
"powerful skater … excellent quickness … hard to check … smart game carrying the puck … plays with intensity … very good passer … effective under pressure … drives hard"
Perfect evaluation.. He's got really good size and is super effective under pressure. Would be a better fit for the Czechs 4th line then Kurovsky. I seriously think its a loss not having him. I was pleasantly surprised with him. And i mean, what good is it for the team, to have Filip Suchy on the 4th line? Just doesnt make sense after seeing these guys play.
Jakub Sirota,
Should be there instead of Kvasnicka maybe. Similar player but a bigger body. Would be more effective imo. Played really well in the tournament. Hockey Canadas evaluation..
"effective in one-on-one play … excellent skater … moves well forward and backward … quick first step … good offensive instincts … passes with authority … responsible defender"
Again, spot on evaluation. Disappointing not to have him. Better be there next year.
Radovan Pavlik,
Not huge on him, but man can he ever shoot the puck. Pure goal scorer. IMO could be a better shooter then Reichel. If he was put on a line with a playmaker, he could do some damage. With that being said, not much room for him on the team. But I would rather see him then Kodytek. Maybe a 4th line role with Soustal..
Conclusion,
Czech management worries me.. They definitely know more about hockey and these guys then me, but imo there is some questionable decisions here. again, I hope im proven wrong and these small players like Kodytek and Kvasnicka, dominate. I just dont see it over guys like Prochazka or Sirota. Anyways heres my preferred and final line-ups..
Stransky-Spacek-Musil
Kase-Chlapik-Jasek
Koblizek-Necas-Reichel
Prochazka-Soustal-Pavlik
Kurovsky
Zboril-Hronek
Vala-Hajek
Budik-Kalina
Sirota
Vladar
Skarek
Kvaca
This would be a pretty challenging team to beat IMO. You guys are free to disagree.
Heres what i think with the players we have.. hoping Kase is ok.
Stransky-Spacek-Musil
Kase-Chlapik-Jasek
Koblizek-Necas-Reichel (Necas needs a goalscorer. Reichel fits there well).
Kurovsky-Soustal-Dufek
Kodytek
Zboril-Hronek
Vala-Hajek
Budik-Kalina
Kvasnicka
Vladar
Skarek
Kvaca
Kodytek, No
Didnt really impress me. Yeah he made some nice passes and plays but he never really stood out. I dont see him having an impact at the WJC. Hes tiny and doesnt possess the speed and skill required to be useful imo. Hope im proven wrong. I do still like him but its really tough on the NA sized rinks for small guys.
Reichel, Yes
Again not a stand out player, but he has a great shot and hockey IQ. I can definitely see him being drafted in the later rounds come summer time...
Kvasnicka, Yes
Fantastic play maker and could be a real threat on the PP. Very fast skater and super smart with the puck. A lot like Hronek.
Kurovsky, Sure
I understand we need a big presence on the ice. Im ok with him being taken. Good player on the forecheck. Suitable on the 4th line.
Kvaca, Yes
Although he was bad in the game against Russia, it was a poor effort by the whole team. He's only going to be 3rd string in my eyes (if we end up having 3 goalies). Skarek should remain 2nd.
Other guys that should have made it.
Ondrej Prochazka,
Super underrated 19 yr old player. This is Hockey Canada's evaluation of him before the tournament.
"powerful skater … excellent quickness … hard to check … smart game carrying the puck … plays with intensity … very good passer … effective under pressure … drives hard"
Perfect evaluation.. He's got really good size and is super effective under pressure. Would be a better fit for the Czechs 4th line then Kurovsky. I seriously think its a loss not having him. I was pleasantly surprised with him. And i mean, what good is it for the team, to have Filip Suchy on the 4th line? Just doesnt make sense after seeing these guys play.
Jakub Sirota,
Should be there instead of Kvasnicka maybe. Similar player but a bigger body. Would be more effective imo. Played really well in the tournament. Hockey Canadas evaluation..
"effective in one-on-one play … excellent skater … moves well forward and backward … quick first step … good offensive instincts … passes with authority … responsible defender"
Again, spot on evaluation. Disappointing not to have him. Better be there next year.
Radovan Pavlik,
Not huge on him, but man can he ever shoot the puck. Pure goal scorer. IMO could be a better shooter then Reichel. If he was put on a line with a playmaker, he could do some damage. With that being said, not much room for him on the team. But I would rather see him then Kodytek. Maybe a 4th line role with Soustal..
Conclusion,
Czech management worries me.. They definitely know more about hockey and these guys then me, but imo there is some questionable decisions here. again, I hope im proven wrong and these small players like Kodytek and Kvasnicka, dominate. I just dont see it over guys like Prochazka or Sirota. Anyways heres my preferred and final line-ups..
Stransky-Spacek-Musil
Kase-Chlapik-Jasek
Koblizek-Necas-Reichel
Prochazka-Soustal-Pavlik
Kurovsky
Zboril-Hronek
Vala-Hajek
Budik-Kalina
Sirota
Vladar
Skarek
Kvaca
This would be a pretty challenging team to beat IMO. You guys are free to disagree.
Heres what i think with the players we have.. hoping Kase is ok.
Stransky-Spacek-Musil
Kase-Chlapik-Jasek
Koblizek-Necas-Reichel (Necas needs a goalscorer. Reichel fits there well).
Kurovsky-Soustal-Dufek
Kodytek
Zboril-Hronek
Vala-Hajek
Budik-Kalina
Kvasnicka
Vladar
Skarek
Kvaca
czechcanadian
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So these are two people who did not see him, but they know it's not a loss. That is encouraging
Im not saying i KNOW that its not a big loss. I just dont think its a huge one comparing to even last year with losing Vrana and Karabacek. Just doesnt come close in comparison.
For example. Was there anyone last year, with the team we had, that could have stepped up and played as well as Vrana or Karabacek would? Highly doubtful.
Is there someone that could step up this year for Lakatos? Maybe not. But its more likely thats for sure. All im saying man.
You guys are saying that the team looks weak now without Lakatos. As if theres no chance for Czechs to do well. Im sorry but I simply cant agree with that.
I did not say we are weak without him (maybe someone else), but it is a weakness and it makes a big difference.
And you want to know how to specifically effect the difference? Do you have 2 line Jaška, I saw him for the last two years much times, and it is against Lakatos desperately weak player. I do not know what to write more. We lost one of the key players, the squad is not by chance so wide that it will not affect the game. And anyone who thinks that this is different, this could not be more out of reality.
I agree here. I had same thoughts about him last year. We will see next game. Fully agree that we shoul go over these blow outs. Question is whether its bad coaching or we just play more offensive style - this would prove that we still have much worse players than others or we still have to heavily rely on system to be able to compete with top nations. I am still bit worried that its a mix of all. We simply dont have individuals and game changers.
czechcanadian
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Ive heard that Jasek isnt that strong this year. I believe you. But where else can you put him in the team? He still has to be better then the U19 team guys.
I also have him on the 2nd line because he wouldnt fit well on the 3rd line with Necas and Koblizek. There would be no goal scorer there. Useless line imo.
So thats why i have Reichel.
And you also cant put him 4th line. Might as well cut him from the team.
So you kind of run out of options
czechcanadian
Registered User
100% agree. Its probably a mix of everything.
With that being said, I dont want to doubt Petr. He has had much success in the past. And there are some good things to take from last year. Like you said, we will see.
Only reason why I have SOME hope this year, is our goaltending and defence.
If they dont do really well, we get 3rd in the group, and we're out in the quaterfinals.
Once again.
I would agree with this assessment after watching for half the year in Cedar Rapids. I think his offense is underrated. He has flashed a great point shot in USHL play.
We will see. To be honest this year Hlinka was for the first time since I have been watching juniors more (2010) when I see relaxed guys beating opponents not just by heavy work load but by quality. We always looked too much drilled. We are fast, quite skilled with puck but we just look we miss detached view, that X factor, some individual qualities.
I might be wrong but I dont think, even if you follow the system hard, that itself just brings you success. It most likely goes to some wins and coincidence medals occassionally than to constant success. You can play like Penguines, but they still have Crosby, Malkin, Kessel.....
As to Lakatos. Iwasnt immpressed by him in last WJC. He was missing a lot things especially when he played aginst NA teams. But his league numbers are very good this year so he probably stepped up a lot, I havent followed him though....
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Where did you hear this? Only thing I heard is he isn't ready for the NHL and shouldn't still be in the NHL but this is from NJ fans on these boards.
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Thanks for the detailed write up with evaluations! Interesting that they go with the smaller guys as you said.
And when has czech management ever not made any somewhat questionable decisions? There's always something, at least it's better than it used to be
I like the idea of putting Necas with Reichel.
Zippy316
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He's been struggling of late.
The biggest problem seems to be positioning. If he's in the right spot, he's made some pretty exceptional plays defensively or on the breakout. More often than not, he's caught watching the play and/or drifting out of position and it's causing breakdowns. I'm not sure how much juniors will help him with that though. Ideally, he would be in the AHL where he can work on his positioning in a pro-style structured game, but that's not possible at the moment.
Any news if the Czech federation asked about Zacha playing? Might be good for him to go to the WJC right now.
Appleyard
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No news on Kase yet?
I know the management said earlier in the week they would possibly know by weeks end.
Being without Lakatos, Kase and Zacha would suck really.
I know the management said earlier in the week they would possibly know by weeks end.
Being without Lakatos, Kase and Zacha would suck really.
czechcanadian
Registered User
Thanks for the detailed write up with evaluations! Interesting that they go with the smaller guys as you said.
And when has czech management ever not made any somewhat questionable decisions? There's always something, at least it's better than it used to be
I like the idea of putting Necas with Reichel.
No problem! Haha yeah we will have to see how it works out. I don't mind seeing Kvasnicka because of his skill set and our defensive depth is already good. But I'm more worried about the decision on bringing Kodytek.
I think Necas with Reichel would be really great. He would likely go on the left wing though. Because they are both right-handed. Makes more sense actually.
czechcanadian
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No I know...I've been checking the Czech websites frequently haha. If we get Kase and Zacha, then I think we could make some noise this year.
Thanks a lot for this.
I don't know how much of an impact will Kodytek make, but I think he is skilled enough to make some. Shame Sirota didn't make it, but this year's defense is stacked, he will likely be a lock for next year's WJC (especially if he gets drafted). Hopefully Kvasnicka makes it, I would love to see what he can do.
Lakatos definitely isn't Vrana like loss, but Karabacek? Karabacek is good but let's not overrate him, Lakatos is just as good prospect as him.
czechcanadian
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Appleyard
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czechcanadian
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YES. That's really good news especially if he's fully fit and ready to go. Wonder if he will play against Canada tomorrow.
Where did you find this out?
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