World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Sweden needs to put Backstrom with EK. He is much more dominant on the PP with him than with the Sedins, imo. He doesn't think like them yet and we can't afford to let him try to figure it out for the next few games left.

Backstrom and EK has worked in short stints this tourney and was magical in Olympics if you guys recall. Let the entire PP run through EK and Backstrom. The Sedins can then dominate the 2nd PP.

Sweden doesn't have many consistent elite offensive threats, especially with the losses of Alfredsson and Zetterberg, so they need to play to their strengths 5on5 offensively and capitalize, especially PP too. This means Backstrom with Karlsson's pairing and Sedin's with OEL or Hedman/Stralman.

Let the offense run through Karlsson and Backstrom whenever they are on the ice and then let it run through the Sedins when they are on.

Things would be so much easier if Forsberg and Landeskog ****ing show up more consistently offensively.

 

[VictorLustig]

Sweden needs to put Backstrom with EK. He is much more dominant on the PP with him than with the Sedins, imo. He doesn't think like them yet and we can't afford to let him try to figure it out for the next few games left.

Backstrom and EK has worked in short stints this tourney and was magical in Olympics if you guys recall. Let the entire PP run through EK and Backstrom. The Sedins can then dominate the 2nd PP.

Sweden doesn't have consistent elite offensive threats, especially without Alfredsson and Zetterberg so they need to play to their strengths 5on5 offensively and capitalize. This means Backstrom with Karlsson's pairing and Sedin's with OEL or Hedman/Stralman.

Let the offense run through Karlsson and Backstrom whenever they are on the ice and then let it run through the Sedins when they are on.

Things would be so much easier if Forsberg and Landeskog ****ing show up more consistently offensively.

Agree, Bäckström should be on the 1st PP, he looks more dangerous than the Sedins. I would actually put him there with Loui, maybe even 5 on 5.

 

[ulvvf]

Sweden has looked pretty bad. For a team with the defense men they have, their defense has been underwhelming.

Took two great performances by Lundqvist to go 1-0-1.

Team wont win with the defense thy are playing and they just look slow. Not because they played NA, but they look slow in general.

Cant picture Sweden making it to the finals unless their D shapes up and Lundqvist continues to bail them out.

The solution to the d would to be play Karlsson more (and have had Klingberg on the team, he is better than all execpt for Karlsson). We have the best d-men of all time, we should use that more.

Sweden won the group, and still we are without a chance against the team people before the tournament saw as the worse team? Görnborg has however not been a playoff coach, hopefully that trend can change now.

 

[Nordic*]

Hedman struggled against U-23. Apparently he's got a humongous charlie horse from Komarov's bull****tery.

They usually don't go away quickly. He might have problems against Europe too.

 

[Willy Stylez]

I kind of agree and yet Sweden wins the most difficult group in the tournament... That must show some strength in their team.

By the way, a question to Coyotes fans: Is OEL the most overrated player in the league or does he just completely lose everything when putting on the swedish jersey? He's been atrocious.

Overrated? Nope. And last time he wear the swedish jersey he was very good. I do expect more from him but he's been allright.

Don't like him on the PP with the Sedins, they are doing their thing and OEL never gets involved, rather have a Landeskog on that line infront of the goal creating traffic and play OEL with the Backstrom unit.

And yes, play the Backstrom unit first on PP.

 

[ijuka]

Hedman struggled against U-23. Apparently he's got a humongous charlie horse from Komarov's bull****tery.

They usually don't go away quickly. He might have problems against Europe too.

Yeah, really dislike Komarov's dirty play. Luckily this should be his final international competition.

 

[ulvvf]

Agree on all this.

So...Backlund or Berglund?

I would play both.

 

[xxreact9]

Sweden let up what, 5 or 6 clear cut breakaways in that game? They're supposed to have the best D in the tourney and got eaten alive.

There's a top-10 possession player in the NHL sitting in the press box.

#freehampus

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...ters&minutes=500&disp=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC

 

[Irishguy42]

Sweden needs to not struggle out of the gate like they did in the first period yesterday.

That killed them.

 

[Nordic*]

Sweden needs to not struggle out of the gate like they did in the first period yesterday.

That killed them.

Yes. After the initial 10ish minutes, Sweden carried the play for a big chunk of the rest of the game. Though without creating the same quality scoring chances as U-23.

With fresh legs and now knowing what kind of speed the kids have from the get go, I see Sweden winning if they would face eachother in the final.

 

[Dris]

Yeah, really dislike Komarov's dirty play. Luckily this should be his final international competition.

Luckily not. He is a hell of a competitor, and provides some guts and smartness when needed. However, his hit the other day was dirty, and avoidable cause it came at the most inconvenient time

But perhaps that is not measurable by your statistics

 

[joe89]

I see no real overachievers nor underachievers after the group stage. Yeah Lundqvist has been good? But that's not news. So we're alright I guess, in the exhibitions we were too top heavy but we've been fairly balanced since then with most lines pulling their weight in one way or the other. Berglund goal last night was a good example. The guy I think have struggled the most compared to what he's capable of is OEL.

Most struggles have been in no-win situations, like NA having no pressure and coming out strong yesterday and playing with a lead against Finland for half a game. Game against Russia with an even playing field was thoroughly executed for 59½ minutes.

Playing against Europe is basically about executing similar to the game against Russia. They love counterattacks. An early goal goes a long, long way for controlling the game against them, while a goal against is an instant nightmare. I think we should reach the final now.

 

[Dosing]

Haven't followed this crap but why is sedin captain? Shouldn't that be berglund or lundqvist?? Or even landeskog. Is it just age before beauty? It may have worked in the past but this is sedins we're talking about. It would be better with no captain then cuz those 2 aren't exactly leadermaterial.

 

[bDtKarlsson]

Haven't followed this crap but why is sedin captain? Shouldn't that be berglund or lundqvist?? Or even landeskog. Is it just age before beauty? It may have worked in the past but this is sedins we're talking about. It would be better with no captain then cuz those 2 aren't exactly leadermaterial.

Can a goalie even be named captain? And Berglund before H. Sedin? Cmon. I think Henrik was the logical choice after the real captain Z was injured. Henrik has also been one of our best players and I don't agree we them not being leader material.

 

[Tomas W]

Haven't followed this crap but why is sedin captain? Shouldn't that be berglund or lundqvist?? Or even landeskog. Is it just age before beauty? It may have worked in the past but this is sedins we're talking about. It would be better with no captain then cuz those 2 aren't exactly leadermaterial.

Are you serious?

 

[Phil McKraken]

Haven't followed this crap but why is sedin captain? Shouldn't that be berglund or lundqvist?? Or even landeskog. Is it just age before beauty? It may have worked in the past but this is sedins we're talking about. It would be better with no captain then cuz those 2 aren't exactly leadermaterial.

Based on what exactly?

 

[PM]

Haven't followed this crap but why is sedin captain? Shouldn't that be berglund or lundqvist?? Or even landeskog. Is it just age before beauty? It may have worked in the past but this is sedins we're talking about. It would be better with no captain then cuz those 2 aren't exactly leadermaterial.

Did you watch any of the games before the last game? I'm going to assume not.

I'm one of the biggest Sedin fans there are but they never should have been used in 3v3, at least not as the primary option. They are fantastic 4v4 players but in the one year we have had 3v3 hockey they never looked comfortable out there. Too much open ice and they don't have the high-end foot speed to cover it. Maybe when they were younger but they were never exactly speedsters out there.

Hilarious though seeing them get crapped on after their line was the only consistent offensive presence through every other game so far. Saying they aren't "leader material" is complete and utter ********.

 

[LaGu]

There are like 5-6 players who'd I name Captain before getting to Landeskog.... - and I like Landeskog.

Don't feed trolls.

 

[Sorey*]

Backstrom is swedish point leader

 

[LiveeviL]

Haven't followed this crap but why is sedin captain? Shouldn't that be berglund or lundqvist?? Or even landeskog. Is it just age before beauty? It may have worked in the past but this is sedins we're talking about. It would be better with no captain then cuz those 2 aren't exactly leadermaterial.

"Haven't followed this crap"? As in... hockey?

 

[I am toxic]

"Haven't followed this crap"? As in... hockey?

Well said. They write papers on these guys' leadership.

But yeah, 3v3 now that they are mid-30's, they better bury it right away on the first chance, otherwise trouble.

 

[Nordic*]

I'll try to grade Sweden through these first 3 games.

Sedin 3.75
Sedin 3.75
Eriksson 4
Bäckström 3.75
Landeskog 2.5
Forsberg 2.75
Hörnquist 3
Silfverberg 2.75
Backlund 2.75
Berglund 2.75
Kruger 2.5
Hagelin 3.25

Karlsson 3.75
OEL 2.75
Hjalmarsson 3.5
Hedman 3.75
Strålman 3.5
Ekholm 3

Markström 3.75
Lundquist 4


Eriksson with a higher grade than the twins due to his superior defensive game.

Thoughts?


We're through without really having reached our highest level in any game, just some spurts here and there.

Expect a lot more from especially OEL, Lando and Forsberg.

 

[Twist and Shout]

Yeah, really dislike Komarov's dirty play. Luckily this should be his final international competition.

He's 29 and will be around for the next Olympics..

 

[BonAppleTea]

He's 29 and will be around for the next Olympics..

Not if the Panthers execute him on the ice first

 

[Chimpradamus]

He's 29 and will be around for the next Olympics..

He said in the papers he might not play for the national team anymore. I support his decision to 100%.

I dunno, I feel good about this team. They've played safe, two-way hockey most of their games and taken the lead. When they've struggled, Lundqvist has bailed them out. The only game where they fell behind, they turned the offense up a notch, fought back and tied it up. I think Sweden has an extra gear offensively that they haven't shown much of, especially if they let their defensemen contribute more and take more chances.

They should be able to beat Team Europe, but to win against Canada they have to play at their best, which they haven't done so far.