Prospect Info: 2016 Draft/ Lottery/ Prospect Discussion Thread (Lottery April 30th)

[Mcnotloilersfan]

The Draft Lottery standings are final. Edmonton finishes 29th.

Lowest Possible Pick

5


Top Prospects

1. Auston Matthews - C



2. Patrik Laine - W



3. Jesse Puljujarvi -W

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[Aerchon]

Well. Just quickly watching some of those highlights I have the following thoughts.

Mathews is the best player by a considerable amount. Certainly reminds me of Eichel. Goes to the hard areas to score and can snipe. The high lights don't show his two way game but from what I've heard and seen he seems to be a 200 foot player. Certainly a star level prospect that should end up a franchise #1 big/strong center. If the Oilers get this player it would be an embarrassment of riches. I think the butt hurt from other teams would be well deserved. It would be wrong to have Mcdavid, Leon, and Mathews all on one team.

Laine is exactly what Yak was going into the draft. A guy who goes to open ice and shots shots shots. Seems one dimensional but thats only an impression. Obviously his size, reach, skating will make his skills far more transferable to the NHL than Yaks. Like the player but not sold on him as others.

Pul seems like a all around good to great player but on the bad side certainly reminds me or Magnus.

 

[The Moose]

Interesting end of season, playing Calgary once and Canucks twice in the last three games. I think we will finish ahead of the Leafs and Canucks, but behind everybody else.

 

[frag2]

Well. Just quickly watching some of those highlights I have the following thoughts.

Mathews is the best player by a considerable amount. Certainly reminds me of Eichel. Goes to the hard areas to score and can snipe. The high lights don't show his two way game but from what I've heard and seen he seems to be a 200 foot player. Certainly a star level prospect that should end up a franchise #1 big/strong center. If the Oilers get this player it would be an embarrassment of riches. I think the butt hurt from other teams would be well deserved. It would be wrong to have Mcdavid, Leon, and Mathews all on one team.

Laine is exactly what Yak was going into the draft. A guy who goes to open ice and shots shots shots. Seems one dimensional but thats only an impression. Obviously his size, reach, skating will make his skills far more transferable to the NHL than Yaks. Like the player but not sold on him as others.

Pul seems like a all around good to great player but on the bad side certainly reminds me or Magnus.

Matthews was like an American Malkin. I still think he might end up better than Eichel.
I think Laine, for some reason, reminds me of poor mans Kovalchuk or a "good" Semin. Moreso the latter. First thing that came to my mind

The thing that always skews my view when watching these clips is the pacing of the game. These leagues are so much slower paced it seems

 

[Tyrolean]

Just don't make a mistake and draft a good player that will help the team asap.

 

[Aerchon]

Matthews was like an American Malkin. I still think he might end up better than Eichel.
I think Laine, for some reason, reminds me of poor mans Kovalchuk or a "good" Semin. Moreso the latter. First thing that came to my mind

The thing that always skews my view when watching these clips is the pacing of the game. These leagues are so much slower paced it seems

Both Laine and Pul have me a bit worried. They both look great but both remind me just a bit too much of Yak and Magnus.

I think a Mathews or Thachuk fits what Chiarelli or even McLellan would prefer for the way they are building the team.

Gritty scoring over skilled scoring.

 

[frag2]

Both Laine and Pul have me a bit worried. They both look great but both remind me just a bit too much of Yak and Magnus.

I think a Mathews or Thachuk fits what Chiarelli or even McLellan would prefer for the way they are building the team.

Gritty scoring over skilled scoring.

I think the scariest spot to draft is 2 and 3. 1 is Matthews and that's a given but with the next 2 spots, while they are the consensus 2/3 ranked players, will their game translate? I still think Laine might end up being a better motivated Semin.

The other player to watch out for is Dubois.

 

[HeavyHitter99]

Interesting end of season, playing Calgary once and Canucks twice in the last three games. I think we will finish ahead of the Leafs and Canucks, but behind everybody else.

We are going to finish last, we aren't passing anyone. We are essentially in last with 4 more games played than everyone else.

 

[Shredator]

Can someone explain to me what the gold helmet with flames on it and gold jersey means.

My guess is that either that player is leading their team in points or that the player has some sort of point streak going on.
Either way its interesting to see, your eyes really focus on that player.

Matthews reminds me of Eichel big time. Gritty goals and beautiful snipes. Exactly the player we need.

 

[RipsADrive]

Just realized that the lottery is quite late this year.

Guess they don't want fans of the non-playoff teams checking out until the draft.

 

[Aceboogie]

Todays NHL is more than having just an elite shot. The NHL today is to congested and the D are so mobile its tough to get shots off clean from outside. A majority of goals in the NHL are scored from 3 feet in. Its no longer about scoring off rush, its about having a controlled entry, being able to handle puck in tight and on boards, then going to the net for the loose pucks around the net

To em Matthews plays this game (although only from highlight watching) and Dubios plays this as well. It seems Laine plays a more rush style of game where he benefits from more space. Id like to see his play in corners and in tight

 

[Faelko]

We are going to finish last, we aren't passing anyone. We are essentially in last with 4 more games played than everyone else.

It's almost crazy to think we could finish last and have more points than we've had since Renney coached.

Buffalo (54) 72 this year
Arizona (56) 75 this year
Edmonton (62) 67 this year
Toronto (68) 65 this year
Carolina (71) 79 this year
NJ (78) 80 this year

Only Toronto is behind in points from last year and I'd almost bet they cover as well.

I think we get to 70-71 points.

 

[underdog]

4 games left, we probably win at least 2 of those (personally I'd like to win them all) 71 point or so isn't enough for last place but who really cares? The tank is a myth with the new lotto rules at least for this team. I honestly hope hockey gods are watching and last place team gets shafted of 1st pick again.

 

[Stud Muffin]

Both Laine and Pul have me a bit worried. They both look great but both remind me just a bit too much of Yak and Magnus.

I think a Mathews or Thachuk fits what Chiarelli or even McLellan would prefer for the way they are building the team.

Gritty scoring over skilled scoring.

You might want to watch them play.

 

[Stud Muffin]

Huge hit by Laine.

 

[Fourier]

Both Laine and Pul have me a bit worried. They both look great but both remind me just a bit too much of Yak and Magnus.

I think a Mathews or Thachuk fits what Chiarelli or even McLellan would prefer for the way they are building the team.

Gritty scoring over skilled scoring.

Both the Finns are gritty though. Yak was too as a junior and is still.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Can someone explain to me what the gold helmet with flames on it and gold jersey means.

My guess is that either that player is leading their team in points or that the player has some sort of point streak going on.
Either way its interesting to see, your eyes really focus on that player.

Matthews reminds me of Eichel big time. Gritty goals and beautiful snipes. Exactly the player we need.

Exactly the player we need?
Didn't realize Mathews played D.

 

[Aerchon]

You might want to watch them play.

True, as I have said I am not going off much. I watched every game of thiers in the WJC and thier highlights here and thats it.

Pul and Magnus are almost clones in too many ways from such limited viewing. Hopefully if we get either of those two my worries are unfounded.

 

[nexttothemoon]

The Oilers are pretty much guaranteed to pick top 5... and there are more than 5 great prospects so they are guaranteed to get another solid young prospect for their thin prospect pool.

 

[Shredator]

Exactly the player we need?
Didn't realize Mathews played D.

Fair enough.
But from what I understand there is no Ekblad, Doughty in this draft.
The last thing we need is a scoring winger

 

[Tyrolean]

I think the scariest spot to draft is 2 and 3. 1 is Matthews and that's a given but with the next 2 spots, while they are the consensus 2/3 ranked players, will their game translate? I still think Laine might end up being a better motivated Semin.

The other player to watch out for is Dubois.

Remember it's the Oilers who are drafting. Every pick is scary.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Fair enough.
But from what I understand there is no Ekblad, Doughty in this draft.
The last thing we need is a scoring winger

Then trade it.
If there's no deal to be made, or we find D elsewhere then I would tend to agree with you.
But then, saying we could use the best player in the draft isn't exactly a reach.

 

[BlowbyBlow]

In my opinion theres two factors:

1) d-man rule supreme now every team sees what they can do, but what most people don't understand is high first round picks are about there pedigree i.e. your not going to pass on one higher rated player for less just based on position.

a Matthews or Laine if there future first line players will be valuable.

2) If you can't trade those guys then lesser forwards will be traded for d-man.

It still means that you want equal or close value - meaning would I trade Matthews/Laine for Hamonic, Faulk, ect (just hypotheticals) or would i trade Eberle or someone else maybe less rated.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Theoretically... if Matthews (the #1 pick) isn't worth OEL... then simply draft Matthews because you obviously aren't getting a #1 dman with that pick.

Oilers will have to find a way to get a #1 dman some other way because that pick won't do it (even if it's #1 overall).

Draft the top prospect you can and management should be able to fill holes by trading other players/picks/prospects.

That's what the GM's of the 29 other teams have been able to do who haven't had the luxury of 4 (or maybe soon 5) 1st overalls in recent years.

Simply because management has been so crappy here in Edmonton for so long... everyone (well many) want them to trade that pick away for D... BUT most (if not all) other teams have been able to build a better defense group without the luxury of trading #1 overalls away.

Chiarelli simply has to do his ****ing job and fill the holes by making hockey trades and getting/giving assets that result in actual (not visual) improvements on the ice.

 

[PKSpecialist]

By position, here are the overagers I expect to get a look in this draft. I have no idea how many overagers are normally drafted and it seems to me like this list is high, but I guess that's what happens when you are in a weak draft that follows one of the deepest drafts in years.

LW
Vladimir Bobylev - Victoria Royals - 6'2,205 - Incredible jump in production nearing a PPG on a good offensive club.
Yegor Babenko - Lethbridge Hurricanes - 5'9,157 - Diminutive winger was over a PPG as a rookie in the WHL.
Ross Colton - Cedar Rapids Rough Riders - 6'0,190 - MVP of the USHL Top Prospects Game and captain of the Rough Riders.

C
Vasili Glotov - St.Petersburg - 5'11,159 - Smooth skater over PPG in MHL.
Adam Brooks - Regina Pats - 5'11,176 - WHL scoring leader improved by leaps and bounds.
Nolan Stevens - Northeastern Univ. - 6'2,185 - Big center was over a PPG in his second college season.
Henrik Borgstrom - HIFK U20 - 6'3,170 - Smooth offensive center having solid Jr. A season.
Colt Conrad - Western Michigan U. - 5'10,174 - College rookie had solid season while displaying good vision and balance.
Brayden Burke - Lethbridge Hurricanes - 5'10,163 - Huge offensive season for diminutive puck distributor.
Andrei Svetlakov - CSKA Moskva - 6'0,201 - Gritty center had solid rookie season in the KHL agitating his opponents.
Cameron Hebig - Saskatoon Blades - 5'10,168 - Hard working center put up better than a PPG for a bad Blades team.

RW
Yegor Korshkov - Lokomotiv Yaroslavl - 6'3,179 - Power forward showed how dominant he can be at the WJC.
Nikolai Chebykin - HK MVD Balishikha - 6'4,183 - Towering winger paced his team's offense with his solid hands and puck protection.
Reid Gardiner - Prince Albert Raiders - 5'11,185 - Raider's offensive leader is a solid competitor.
Kasper Bjorkqvist - Blues U20 Jr. A - 6'1,198 - Great offensive season for ultra competitive winger.
Sebastian Repo - Pelicans - 6'2,190 - Smart winger put up solid season in men's league.

D
Stepan Falkovsky - Ottawa 67's - 6'7,225 - Mammoth defender is a leader in the defensive zone and showing off some offensive instincts.
Mikhail Sidorov - Ak Bars Kazan - 6'0,214 - Right handed defender is a solid puck rusher.
Casey Fitzgerald - Boston College - 5'11,185 - Incredible rookie college season for offensive defenseman with NHL bloodlines.
Owen Headrick - Lake Superior State Univ. - 6'0,192 - The youngest defender on his college team, he was also their best.

G
Markus Olsson - Sundsvall IF - 6'2,165 - Lanky goaltender has good technique, and should only get better as he adds strength.
Rylan Parenteau - Prince Albert Raiders - 6'1,190 - Athletic goaltender has great side to side quickness, and he seems to get better every year.