2016-17 Champions Hockey League

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The Swiss and Czechs don't seem overly interested either.

Attendance grow in Sparta games last season. Playing against team from Poland certainly will not help this year...Teams are motivated, though it will all depends whether they are capable to battle on two fronts...
 
Bern should be an attractive opponent for Kosice fans but in August they are still many people on holidays so I´m curios how many people will come.

Yeah, the timing of the groups stage is not ideal, summer, pre-season. If only they could find times during the regular season like the football champions league stage.
 
Compared to the attendance during the regular season, the CHL doesn't draw huge crowd in Switzerland. I don't think we really care about other European leagues in Switzerland, all our players either play in Switzerland or in the NHL.. And the NLA is a good enough league not to have to care about other countries. Why would we pay attention to the SHL or the Czech league when we have the NLA... Even though I personally love the Champions League, that's just not the case for most Swiss. For instance, Bern draws 16,000+ per NLA game but they can barely draw 5,000 for a CHL game. I think that's because they're playing weaker teams or unknown teams that don't look attractive to the average Swiss fan.
 
Right now to me this tournament is quite meh. But I think, with time and some work it can be a huge success. It take time to build rivalries and knowledge of teams over the boarder. Gives teams something more to play for then just trying to reach playoffs aswell(if you qualify by league positions which I hope will be the case). Plus more money will be important
 
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Compared to the attendance during the regular season, the CHL doesn't draw huge crowd in Switzerland. I don't think we really care about other European leagues in Switzerland, all our players either play in Switzerland or in the NHL.. And the NLA is a good enough league not to have to care about other countries. Why would we pay attention to the SHL or the Czech league when we have the NLA... Even though I personally love the Champions League, that's just not the case for most Swiss. For instance, Bern draws 16,000+ per NLA game but they can barely draw 5,000 for a CHL game. I think that's because they're playing weaker teams or unknown teams that don't look attractive to the average Swiss fan.

There was the same attitude in Czech around 2000. So it was generally accepted that bad performance od czech clubs was due to underestimation or lack of interest or both.

I would be naive If I say the same about present CHL. Performance of swiss clubs in CHL is so far quite poor and it does not look you play with B teams. That would draw my attention. How can you be even certain that you are good enough when your teams are not succesfull in int. competition? Swedes and finns proved easily they are two best leagues in Europe. The rest should work hard ....
 
Compared to the attendance during the regular season, the CHL doesn't draw huge crowd in Switzerland. I don't think we really care about other European leagues in Switzerland, all our players either play in Switzerland or in the NHL.. And the NLA is a good enough league not to have to care about other countries. Why would we pay attention to the SHL or the Czech league when we have the NLA... Even though I personally love the Champions League, that's just not the case for most Swiss. For instance, Bern draws 16,000+ per NLA game but they can barely draw 5,000 for a CHL game. I think that's because they're playing weaker teams or unknown teams that don't look attractive to the average Swiss fan.

But it´s so important for every sport in Europe that there is a international comparison. I think it just take some time for the CHL to grow and get more popular. It will definitely help when there are fewer teams in the tourney like in the past format.
 
I think it's important that they abandon the A-license and B-license thing which guarantees a CHL group stage to A-license clubs irrespective of how good they have been in the prior season. Spot in CHL should be deserved and teams should fight for it, as do all the B-license teams. This way teams don't take it for granted and start seeing their CHL spot as a price that they deserved, with a bigger price at stake should they go far in it. It definitely needs better prize money too, the costs for participating in the tournament are high, especially logistics and for some teams they don't even cover their expenses.
 
I think it's important that they abandon the A-license and B-license thing which guarantees a CHL group stage to A-license clubs irrespective of how good they have been in the prior season. Spot in CHL should be deserved and teams should fight for it, as do all the B-license teams. This way teams don't take it for granted and start seeing their CHL spot as a price that they deserved, with a bigger price at stake should they go far in it. It definitely needs better prize money too, the costs for participating in the tournament are high, especially logistics and for some teams they don't even cover their expenses.
That's to keep the international league pecking order clear. SHL, Liiga, NLA, then DEL, EBEL, Extraliga, then the invitational leagues.
 
But it´s so important for every sport in Europe that there is a international comparison. I think it just take some time for the CHL to grow and get more popular. It will definitely help when there are fewer teams in the tourney like in the past format.

It'll grow in time.i feel like it's already more "relevant"since the return a few years ago.idk,as an American(St. Louis Blues/Djurgarden fan)I just love these kind of tourneys.The KHL may never be apart of this but I still think it can be something really worth playing for in Europe.
 
That's to keep the international league pecking order clear. SHL, Liiga, NLA, then DEL, EBEL, Extraliga, then the invitational leagues.

I'm fine with a pecking order, but you can do that without guaranteeing a spot to specific clubs based on A-license. Why not just guarantee number of spots per league and let the results of the previous season define which clubs go from that given league? Over time, the number of spots from those leagues should be defined on some CHL coefficient based on club results like they do in the football CL.
 
I'm fine with a pecking order, but you can do that without guaranteeing a spot to specific clubs based on A-license. Why not just guarantee number of spots per league and let the results of the previous season define which clubs go from that given league? Over time, the number of spots from those leagues should be defined on some CHL coefficient based on club results like they do in the football CL.

This season is the last one with a guaranteed spot for founding clubs . So from next season there won´t be so many teams participating cause they will most likely change the format
 
The only way to improve the League and make it more popular is to multiply the prize Money by x10 or more. If there was 100 000 Euro for every win in this tournament, most people would be all over it.
 
That's to keep the international league pecking order clear. SHL, Liiga, NLA, then DEL, EBEL, Extraliga, then the invitational leagues.

The founding clubs got a guaranteed spot in the CHL for the first three seasons, how's that in any way 'keeping the pecking order clear'? I can handle legitimate criticism but not this MOD.
 
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The only way to improve the League and make it more popular is to multiply the prize Money by x10 or more. If there was 100 000 Euro for every win in this tournament, most people would be all over it.

Yeah sure, but they can´t raise the prize money within a season. It´ll take time. And if there are fewer teams the individual teams get more money.
 
The founding clubs got a guaranteed spot in the CHL for the first three seasons, how's that in any way 'keeping the pecking order clear'? I can handle legitimate criticism but not this MOD.
MOD.

It makes sure that the best leagues send more teams than the rest leagues. MOD
 
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I'm fine with a pecking order, but you can do that without guaranteeing a spot to specific clubs based on A-license. Why not just guarantee number of spots per league and let the results of the previous season define which clubs go from that given league? Over time, the number of spots from those leagues should be defined on some CHL coefficient based on club results like they do in the football CL.
Yeah, I think they will gravitate towards that, just as you said like the Champions League in soccer (futbol).
 
I think there was talk about Cracovia possibly using Tauron Arena for their CHL home games (~13k seats for hockey)?

~15k seats for hockey, and Cracovia play in Tauron Arena :handclap:

btw.

Updates for the 17/18 version of the tourney. 32 teams, everyone must qualify. No longer having teams get a set spot.

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1 SWEDEN 5
2 FINLAND 5
3 CZECH REPUBLIC 4
4 SWITZERLAND 4
5 AUSTRIA 3
6 GERMANY 3
7 NORWAY 1
8 SLOVAKIA 1
9 FRANCE 1
10 BELARUS 1
11 DENMARK 1
12 GREAT BRITAIN 1
13 POLAND 1
14 CONTINENTAL CUP WINNER 1

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