Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

on a 1 year deal, no he doesn't jump that much. but if you want to lock him up for several years, which includes multiple years that he could be a UFA then the number inches closer to $4 mil.

I have no problem with 4M+ if its a deal longer than 2 years.

 

[GregSirico]

I think it's been sorta estimated that the cap would be around $69,600,000 or something like that. Whether it really will be that or not, it still makes the whole situation a lot tighter.

Zipay said earlier today on WFAN that it could very well crack the 70 mark.

 

[hi]

It could look something like this.

Kreider's cap hit is way too low.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I got Kreider right around where we signed Hagelin for.. 2.25

 

[Frolov of Wraparound]

Zipay said earlier today on WFAN that it could very well crack the 70 mark.

Oh, I didn't hear that. I hope it ends up being true, would be a nice boost.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

When will a set cap actually be announced?

 

[Zil]

When will a set cap actually be announced?

It should come out four or five days before before July 1st. I'd expect to know by June 26th or 27th.

 

[0ddManRush]

When will a set cap actually be announced?

Officially? June 30 per Cap Geek.

 

[NikC]

when does FA officially start?

 

[Tawnos]

Officially? June 30 per Cap Geek.

That's the technical answer. We usually get confirmation from people like Dreger about a week beforehand. So, early next week most likely.

The last two years have been bizarre. Fake cap for 2012 off-season, no actual numbers for 12-13 revenue. Three years ago, Dreger got the number on 6/23. Four years ago, TSN got it out on 6/23. Thursday and Wednesday respectively.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Can we stop with the ROR stuff.. there ZERO rumors about ROR coming to New York

 

[NikC]

on another note.. Why did we let Dale Weise go? He'd be a great player for our bottom six, who would really fit our team right now.

I don't understand moves like this. we need guys like this in the lineup, I can't think of a comparable player that can join the club from within next season.
we shouldn't have to go outside the organization for bottom six players.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

on another note.. Why did we let Dale Weise go? He'd be a great player for our bottom six, who would really fit our team right now.

I don't understand moves like this. we need guys like this in the lineup, I can't think of a comparable player that can join the club from within next season.
we shouldn't have to go outside the organization for bottom six players.

Miller or Fast IMO both can.

 

[0ddManRush]

on another note.. Why did we let Dale Weise go? He'd be a great player for our bottom six, who would really fit our team right now.

I don't understand moves like this. we need guys like this in the lineup, I can't think of a comparable player that can join the club from within next season.
we shouldn't have to go outside the organization for bottom six players.

I don't remember specifically, but looking at the numbers, 28g/50p/114 pims in 2009 sounded promising.

 

[Tawnos]

on another note.. Why did we let Dale Weise go? He'd be a great player for our bottom six, who would really fit our team right now.

Tortorella was not a fan. Weise got booted out of two places where he was coach.

 

[NikC]

Miller or Fast IMO both can.

True for Miller he's a C though. Fast is 25lbs lighter... not going to be very effective imo in the bottom six.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Can we stop with the ROR stuff.. there ZERO rumors about ROR coming to New York

There are rumors that the Avs could be shopping him, though. And with us having Jeff Gorton (who loved Bergeron when he was in the Bruins front office), I think the Rangers will be involved in a potential ROR trade.

 

[NikC]

Tortorella was not a fan. Weise got booted out of two places where he was coach.

yes i remember that Torts didn't like the guy. ugh. fricken Tortorella.

we kept him 1 yr too long. ...

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

yes i remember that Torts didn't like the guy. ugh. fricken Tortorella.

we kept him 1 yr too long. ...

The gift that keeps on giving...

 

[slipknottin]

True for Miller he's a C though. Fast is 25lbs lighter... not going to be very effective imo in the bottom six.

He's bigger than his listed weight. He's pushing 200 IMO

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

If they are signed I expect Pouliot to get $1.9-2.2, Kreider to get $2-2.5 on a bridge, Brassard to get $3.9-4.4 on a multi year, and Zucc to get $4.2-4.8 on a longer term (4-5 yrs) deal. FWIW.

Zucc's agent apparently told Norwegian newspapers that he's looking for a 5 year deal worth 22 million.

That's AAV of 4.4 mill. That's his starting point, it would seem like. I expect that to go down marginally to about 4.1/4.2 mill for the same term length.

I assume Zucc is signed before Brassard. After that, if his AAV is 4.2 (for example) I find it hard that a player who had 45 points last year, and has never surpassed 47, can bargain his way to an amount close-to that of a player who is of the same age, on the same line, and producing 60 points... with potential to perhaps even make it to 70.

Brassard's potential is about 15-20 points less than Zucarello. I'd assume negotiations between the two sides start and end with what Zucarello makes and I think Zucarello will make something not only fair but maybe even cap friendly - like McDonagh elected to do last offseason.

Which is why I think Brassard either gets a QO @ 3.7, essentially deferring a decision on him until it is absolutely necessary, or he is traded... perhaps with Staal.

 

[cd211]

Can we stop with the ROR stuff.. there ZERO rumors about ROR coming to New York

call speculation..

1-he wants a lot of $$$
2-Been reports Avs could shop him because negotiations are prob headed south, and they dont want an offersheet situation
3-they are looking for a "stud defense"

we're in NY buddy.. we are always in the conversation in trades..

 

[GregSirico]

There are rumors that the Avs could be shopping him, though. And with us having Jeff Gorton (who loved Bergeron when he was in the Bruins front office), I think the Rangers will be involved in a potential ROR trade.

This! It's no secret that he might become available so we all speculating ... that's what people do in the offseason

 

[aufheben]

Can we stop with the ROR stuff.. there ZERO rumors about ROR coming to New York

Nah.

Avs fans weren't too keen on a Staal, most think he'd be too much of a gamble (potentially signing with Carolina). A conditional asset would need to be added, something appetizing, which we don't really have.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Nah.

Avs fans weren't too keen on a Staal, most think he'd be too much of a gamble (potentially signing with Carolina). A conditional asset would need to be added, something appetizing, which we really don't have.

I've been saying that a trade of Staal and Kristo would work out perfectly for both teams. I can genuinely see it happening.