Normally, you won't find a bigger proponent of upgrades at center than me, but this is the reality of the situation. If the team becomes too committed at upgrading the center position, its undoubtedly going to be felt negatively elsewhere in the lineup. Pick your poison.
Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread II
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Normally, you won't find a bigger proponent of upgrades at center than me, but this is the reality of the situation. If the team becomes too committed at upgrading the center position, its undoubtedly going to be felt negatively elsewhere in the lineup. Pick your poison.
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50 points in 78 games is almost PPG?
He plays on a team that has no defensive structure and they have some very good wingers. I don't think he'd do any better than Brass on the Rangers.
Depends on your definition of almost.
Using that one, Brassard is almost a point per game player too. So what are we complaining about?!
Depends on your definition of almost.
Using that one, Brassard is almost a point per game player too. So what are we complaining about?!
He probably meant the lock out season where he scored 44 points in 48 games.
You can draw a lot of crazy conclusions when you extrapolate from half a season.
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Meh, you can tell trends.
Brassard, who's been in this league for a while now has around a .60 ppg average. He fluctuates between .63 and .55.
Kadri had .92 last year. .64 this season on a down year. That's still higher than Brassard. For Brassard, the 5 year sample size that shows a consistent trend projects that he'll remain in this vicinity. For Kadri, it means that he has the potential to be a 1c with a floor of a 2c...?
Usually players get better from how they are rookie season. If Kadri was to just remain consistent... he'd have 75 points. That's 1c potential.
jerseyjinx94
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I like Brass a lot, I think a full season with Zucc on his right and he can be a 2C. What qualifies as a 2C anyway? 50 points? Brass can do that easily. 20 G, 30 A.
I also think Brass is well liked in the locker room. We shouldn't be looking to move him.
I also think Brass is well liked in the locker room. We shouldn't be looking to move him.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
Am I the only Ranger fan who thinks that Stepan can still develop into a legitimate 2 way 1C? The guy is 23...He can score 65 points and be a top 5-10 2 way C in the NHL. He's still developing.
And if Miller can ever show even a semblance of the prowess offensively that he showed in the AHL, we'll be fine at C. Of course, I don't think Stepan becomes elite overnight. But he can be a legitimate 1C, Patrice Bergeron type. He's nearly that already.
And if Miller can ever show even a semblance of the prowess offensively that he showed in the AHL, we'll be fine at C. Of course, I don't think Stepan becomes elite overnight. But he can be a legitimate 1C, Patrice Bergeron type. He's nearly that already.
Gee, I wonder if buying low on a 23 year old with a first line ceiling was actually a bad idea.
Because who would ever want to do a low risk high reward trade... like ever?
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
That's a fair question. I'm not saying he will do it. But he and Zucc really clicked. I don't know where I could find this stat, but I'd like to know how many games he played with Zucc on his right and how many points he had in those games.
He's good for 40-50 points already, I see no reason why he can't score 50+. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I'm not saying that it would be prudent to assume he scores 50 points. But I wouldn't label him "he is what he is" just yet.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
Kadri is a headcase who is lost on the defensive side of the puck, and has never come close to this ceiling youre projecting. But other than that, yea, totally low risk.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
He's also 23 and exceptionally talented. Coaching/leadership can have a huge influence on a player. Toronto is a mess in that department.
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Or we can flip it so it doesn't sound so negatively and say Kadri is a headcase who has immense potential on the offensive side and needs discipline to finally start playing defensively.
No one in Toronto's locker room holds him accountable.
I wonder what bringing a player like that into a winning locker room with veteran leadership and a solid coach might be able to do for him?
Bet the Kings should have never traded for Justin Williams... cause he absolutely isn't a case of how bringing one of those types of players into a winning environment creates a winning player...
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CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / ROR/Stastny/Thornton/Spezza #1 center ($6.750m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Mats Zuccarello ($4.250m) / Derick Brassard ($4.000m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
Jesper Fast ($0.805m) / Dominic Moore ($1.300m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
John Moore ($1.500m) / Raphael Diaz ($1.225m)
Dylan McIlrath ($0.703m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,198,333; BONUSES: $1,036,667
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $901,667
And I actually think some of the contracts are too high...
FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / ROR/Stastny/Thornton/Spezza #1 center ($6.750m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Mats Zuccarello ($4.250m) / Derick Brassard ($4.000m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m)
Jesper Fast ($0.805m) / Dominic Moore ($1.300m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
John Moore ($1.500m) / Raphael Diaz ($1.225m)
Dylan McIlrath ($0.703m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$0
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,198,333; BONUSES: $1,036,667
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $901,667
And I actually think some of the contracts are too high...
How are you obtaining ROR, Thornton, or Spezza? And if its Stastny, it'll almost certainly be over $6.75M.
Stastny probably will end up with a lower 6.75 mm contract if he stays in Colorado. No where else.
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