Salary Cap: 2014/2015 New York Rangers roster & salary cap

[NYR Viper]

I tend to agree.

Thats awfully steep for both Boyle and Moore, but this run just proves how important depth is.

I'd rather pay those guys than go on a stupid hunt for a #1C thats just not there.

I agree. If they can move Dorsett and sign someone for $800k I'd be okay overpaying Boyle/Moore by the same amount, say $400k each to stay.

Pouliot and Dorsett seem top be the odd-men out. I really think Pouliot could be replaced by someone internally, be it Miller, Fast, Kristo, etc.

I should also note, that I am hopeful they can get both players signed for less than the amounts shown. The years don't bother me so much.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I tend to agree.

Thats awfully steep for both Boyle and Moore, but this run just proves how important depth is.

I'd rather pay those guys than go on a stupid hunt for a #1C thats just not there.

Since management seems to have determined that our win-now window is now, I don't think that you can get the 1c through the proper way to do that - 1st round draft pick.

Miller may or may not turn out to be a good center, he's a risk for just that, let alone the most important center on the team. Stepan still hasn't shown the consistency that a 1c needs, although he has been getting better each year, and he's been playing consistently in the NHL for 3 years now.

Eventually, I think since is the route that they are going with, the plan should be to swap Nash's salary and fill the 1c hole by making a run at Steven Stamkos... who by the way structured his contract the way he did so that he could exit TB as quickly as possible. He's a FA in 2 years.

Ironically, by the time he'd come (hypothetically) we'd have to fill our 1 and 2 RW's (as Nash and MSL will either be gone or be right about to leave). Fix one problem only to have 1-2 more open up.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

I agree. If they can move Dorsett and sign someone for $800k I'd be okay overpaying Boyle/Moore by the same amount, say $400k each to stay.

Pouliot and Dorsett seem top be the odd-men out. I really think Pouliot could be replaced by someone internally, be it Miller, Fast, Kristo, etc.

I should also note, that I am hopeful they can get both players signed for less than the amounts shown. The years don't bother me so much.

Agreed. Dorsett and Pouliot are too prone to idiocy for my liking.

The combos that have made those lines go are Brassard/Zucc and Moore/Boyle. I think some cheap options can ride shotgun with those lines.

 

[Off Sides]

I think Brassard will get more than his qualifier, he's arbitration eligible and if he takes them he'll get more than that.

Zucc I think at ~4M that's a big raise but not out of line of what he could get.

Moore I think might take less than he could get on the market to stay, maybe Boyle too but if it came down to choice I think I'd keep Moore.

Pouliot would be smart to stay for less than he could get on a short term deal, not sure he is going to find another place on another team where he fits. If he wants too much I'd prefer they look elsewhere.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I don't like any solution that has Raffi Diaz playing anything more than a 7th defenseman's role on this team.

Major moves:
- Buy out Richards.
- Trade Staal for picks/prospects/young players.
- If Stepan can be upgraded to a true #1 center of the type I've mentioned in the past (potentially in combination with Staal in a major deal?), explore it (quietly).
- Sign Skjei out of college.

Own signings:
- Re-sign RFAs Brassard (3 yrs), Zuccarello (4 yrs), Kreider (bridge - would love him on a longer term deal, but I don't think you can do it under the cap), J. Moore (bridge)
- Re-sign UFAs Stralman and D. Moore for whatever number of years you can get for a reasonable price.
- TRY to re-sign Boyle for whatever number of years you can get for a reasonable price, but let him walk if he gets a "Prust-ian" contract.
- Offer Pouliot a sub $2MM AAV, 2 year deal; if he rejects it, let him walk.

UFA signings:
- Look for a vet LH d-man coming off an injury or a down year who could potentially be signed for an AAV lower than he would otherwise command (I'm thinking like a Pitkanen), otherwise stay out of the UFA D market.
- If someone like a Mike Richards does become available - and is available for a bargain - explore it; otherwise, stay out of the UFA F market.

Let Skjei, Allen, potential trade returns and the UFA D compete for a LH D spot.
Let Miller, Lindberg, potential trade returns and the potential UFA F compete for a center spot.
Kids like Fast, McIlrath, etc. fill in the remaining spots that open up due to FAs you couldn't sign or injuries that occur.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I agree. If they can move Dorsett and sign someone for $800k I'd be okay overpaying Boyle/Moore by the same amount, say $400k each to stay.

Pouliot and Dorsett seem top be the odd-men out. I really think Pouliot could be replaced by someone internally, be it Miller, Fast, Kristo, etc.

I should also note, that I am hopeful they can get both players signed for less than the amounts shown. The years don't bother me so much.

I don't think Poo can be replaced for what he brings. I know that many people see 36 points and feel like an offensively apt prospect might be able to not only bring 36 pts to the table but also maybe even more.

Poo is 6'3, 200 pds, has a physical nasty streak to his game, and is pretty damn fast. Fast shoots twice a game. He's better than Benoit defensively by a mile, but we'd definitely take a hit size-wise and perhaps even offensively if Fast continues shooting as his 1.5 avg shots per game clip. On the other hand, Kristo is more defensively irresponsible than Poo (which is astonishing that anyone can be that irresponsible) more offensively gifted than Poo, faster, but unfortunately smaller. He is 5'11 and 185.

Watching Zucc, MSL, Brass... any time they're on the boards against the Kings they're literally being bullied off the puck and losing it. Bigger teams would be our kryptonite. We can't replace Poo for what he brings internally, unfortunately.

 

[NYR Viper]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derick Brassard ($4.200m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Mats Zuccarello ($4.200m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Jesper Fast ($0.805m)
Brian Boyle ($2.400m) / Dominic Moore ($2.000m) / Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m)
Mike Brown ($0.737m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($4.000m)
John Moore ($1.250m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.000m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,448,334; BONUSES: $445,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,651,666

Tiny bit of cap space left

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Tiny bit of cap space left

I fear Boyle gets more than that - and I think it's possible Stralman does too if he hits the open market. Also, the cap is projected to be $69-70MM, which would leave you with about a tenth of your projected availability, even if they do hit the numbers you suggested...

 

[AHB*]

Would've been appetizing to me in 2010.

The guy is shot. Slotting him into the 4th line on a very, very good team has hidden it to a degree.

He would be asked to play about his head and would be another Brad Richards. He skates like he's in mud, his wheels have fallen off. He's just better defensively then Brad at this point, but that's it.

I think we really need to focus on maintaining our guys this year and letting them continue to grow. Add around them. Don't add any namey FA's. Role players, maybe, that's about it.

It took us years to get a competent fourth line, which is one of the major reasons we are where we are. DO everything you can to keep them together. We never nickel and dimed before and it's not time to start now.

Do your best to keep stralsy AND Staal.

Grow our young kids. Maybe let Pouliot walk to open a spot for someone like Fast or Kristo.

Buyout Richards and give the 3C to Miller. Live with his growing pains. He's ready offensively. Take the lumps, it will pay dividends.

Sign Carcillo as a cheap backup, same with Diaz or Falk.

This team is obviously good enough to contend. I"m not talking about us making it to the finals, i'm talking about our performance from January on. Once they got through the first half this team was on pace for 112 points. That was second in the EAst to Boston. THey needed time to adjust to AV's system, but once they got it, they GOT IT.

It's vitally important to keep these guys together. It's vitally important NOT to overpay for guys who can come in and disrupt this chemistry. This team certainly has holes, but they need to be smart about them.

Also, I fully expect Nash to have a good bounce back year come 2015.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Tiny bit of cap space left

Isn't Brassard's QO 3.7 mm? You can let Allen play for half of Moore's contract with similar results.

That's nearly 1 mm more right there.

Also think Stralman can be resigned for 3.5, which should help us save an additional .5 mill. Everything else looks good to me.

I'd prefer we got a better puck moving defender that can add 20-30 more points a season than Staal or Stralman (Whoever you choose to keep) can.

Edler and Mike Green are guys that fit AV's style better.

Weber and Shattenkirk others that are much more unlikely, but doesn't hurt to gage their cost, either.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I fear Boyle gets more than that - and I think it's possible Stralman does too if he hits the open market. Also, the cap is projected to be $69-70MM, which would leave you with about a tenth of your projected availability, even if they do hit the numbers you suggested...

I don't think Stralman gets over 3.5 mm a yr. He isn't offensively minded and he's a 2nd pairing defender defensively.

 

[AHB*]

I don't think Stralman gets over 3.5 mm a yr. He isn't offensively minded and he's a 2nd pairing defender defensively.

He will easily get 4 Mil and may just get 5 Mil.

Stralman is probably our best RD. Yes, I think he's better then Girardi.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I don't think Stralman gets over 3.5 mm a yr. He isn't offensively minded and he's a 2nd pairing defender defensively.

UFAs get overpaid, but UFA defensemen get extra overpaid - AND he's been playing extremely well on the biggest stage possible. If he chases every last dollar in UFA, I think he could easily approach McDonald money, unfortunately.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

He will easily get 4 Mil and may just get 5 Mil.

Stralman is probably our best RD. Yes, I think he's better then Girardi.

We'll see. I think he's extremely under rated and it will show with his next contract. I could be wrong.

 

[Ail]

He will easily get 4 Mil and may just get 5 Mil.

Stralman is probably our best RD. Yes, I think he's better then Girardi.

He definitely is in this system. Girardi plays a different game, a strong one, but not as good a fit as Stralman for this team. I think one guy like Girardi is good to have.

 

[AHB*]

He definitely is in this system. Girardi plays a different game, a strong one, but not as good a fit as Stralman for this team. I think one guy like Girardi is good to have.

Again, I think letting Stralman go and keeping Girardi is really going to hurt.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Just a hunch but I think people are going to be shocked when they see Boyle's contract.

I think he gets $3-3.5 x 4-5 from some team on the open market. I really have a tough time seeing him or Stralman back as much as I think they are must-signs. I just think they will get absurd offers.

 

[Ail]

Again, I think letting Stralman go and keeping Girardi is really going to hurt.

It would 100%. I'm not advocating one or the other, it has to be both at this point. They have to sign Stralman.

 

[Off Sides]

I think Boyle walks for more than most expect.

I think they should sign Stralman but they won't, mostly because they'll be shopping for UFAs with the cap money they could have used on him. And yes I expect that to go poorly.

 

[AHB*]

It would 100%. I'm not advocating one or the other, it has to be both at this point. They have to sign Stralman.

I really get the feeling we're not bringing back Stralman. I don't think many understand the repercussions that will have on this squad. He was our 2nd best D-Man this year and through the playoffs.

 

[AHB*]

I think Boyle walks for more than most expect.

I think they should sign Stralman but they won't, mostly because they'll be shopping for UFAs with the cap money they could have used on him. And yes I expect that to go poorly.

Stralsy is probably the second best UFA D-Man on the market, to Markov. And even there, Markov is old and not as good defensively. They shouldn't be looking at any UFA D-Men to replace Stralman if they're planning on spending 4-5 MIl anyway.

Again, this team has never been one to nickel and dime players, EVER, why start now when we have a good thing going?

 

[Off Sides]

Stralsy is probably the second best UFA D-Man on the market, to Markov. And even there, Markov is old and not as good defensively.

Just what I think they'll do, and I agree Stralman is the youngest and best option on the UFA front for defenders. Yet I have yet to see Sather not shop during any UFA season.

 

[Crease]

Stralsy is probably the second best UFA D-Man on the market, to Markov. And even there, Markov is old and not as good defensively. They shouldn't be looking at any UFA D-Men to replace Stralman if they're planning on spending 4-5 MIl anyway.

Again, this team has never been one to nickel and dime players, EVER, why start now when we have a good thing going?

Because re-signing players doesn't sell more season ticket plans.

 

[AHB*]

Stop making me depressed lol.

 

[Fugazy]

Stop making me depressed lol.