Speculation: 2014 - 2015 New York Rangers :: Roster building / proposal thread

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Penner for cheap on the 3rd line would also be very good.

Lots of options still out there to replace Poo. I really don't want to be THAT guy, but Tanner Glass and his 1.5 mil are looming large right now. Penner or Stemp could probably be signed for 2 mil.
 
Didnt know where to post about this but bovada.lv has odds on who will be the next rangers captain and the experts have it heavily favorited that Mac will be the next captain (-500 for those who bet out there, and the only other bet is "any other player" at +300). I was hoping that he or Staal would be the next captain so this is good news in my book, just wondering what they know that makes them so confident.
 
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solid work
 
Don't think Ribeiro is happening, and Slats is past the Tibbets/MacLean days. He was on record saying they didn't want Bryz last season, and he's easily maintained, IMO. And after what Maloney said, no chance. I think from Dolan down, this team's goal is to be the model of classiness.

After what Gorton suggested, a signing is unlikely... I can really only see Staal, Hagelin, J. Moore or MAYBE Klein being the only gives we MIGHT be able to afford moving without creating any massive holes... it'd depend on the return, of course.

Wow I guess I "drop mad names." Didn't realize/intend to.
 
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Penner for cheap on the 3rd line would also be very good.

Lots of options still out there to replace Poo. I really don't want to be THAT guy, but Tanner Glass and his 1.5 mil are looming large right now. Penner or Stemp could probably be signed for 2 mil.

I suggested Penner and got **** on lol

He'd be a decent fiot for the third line, I agree

Still want Booth in that spot. I like him as a reclamation project on the cheap. 1 year, $1M.
 
If we had to ice a team with our top prospects right now, how bad would it be? I think it's an interesting way to see where our weaknesses lie.

Kreider - Miller - Kristo
Duclair - Nieves - Haggerty
Buchenevich - Lindberg - Fast
Bourque - Yogan - Kantor

Skjei - McIlrath
Bodie - Allen
Graves - Andersson

Noureau, Zamorsky

Skapski
Missaien


I think the wingers wouldn't be so bad. I think the center group is definitely lacking if Miller and Lindberg are our best C prospects. The biggest hole has to be at goal-tending, though, hopefully, we addressed that with this year's draft. The right side of the defense is also lacking. Allen would be much better on the left, I think, but I placed him on the left out of necessity.
 
Good possibility he gets on that 3rd line with Zucc and Brass if AV wants Nash up front instead of on the Zucc-Brass line

Does Kristo play LW?

Both Nash and Zuccarello are not nearly as good on the left.
 
Does Kristo play LW?

Both Nash and Zuccarello are not nearly as good on the left.

Both Kristo and Haggerty have a chance for that 3W spot, and both are right-handed.

Fairly sure both can play the left side just fine. Haggerty definitely plays it on the PP, at the least.

But I disagree about Nash and Zucc. I think they're both actually just as effective on the left side.

I personally like Kreider, Nash, Zucc, St. Louis as our top-6 wingers which puts one of Nash/Zucc on the LW.
 
Does Kristo play LW?

Both Nash and Zuccarello are not nearly as good on the left.
I've never noticed that from Zuccarello. I don't think they'll want to play Kristo on his off-wing. I don't think they'll want to add the tougher chip out of the zone to his defensive plate.
 
I always thought Ribeiro was better than people gave him credit for but I want no part of him. He's worse on faceoffs than any of the Ranger centers. Only 1 of 3 double-digit minus guys on the Yotes last season.

Just say "No!"
 
I always thought Ribeiro was better than people gave him credit for but I want no part of him. He's worse on faceoffs than any of the Ranger centers. Only 1 of 3 double-digit minus guys on the Yotes last season.

Just say "No!"

so, he's a high point producer, a good skater, a great powerplay guy...but you don't want him because of his faceoffs?

faceoffs?

really?

come on man. I get the attitude argument, but faceoffs? thats absurd. Have someone else take the faceoffs then, have Dominic Moore take every Rangers faceoff and change real quick to get him on the ice of need be. Faceoffs should never be a reason you dont sign a player.
 
so, he's a high point producer, a good skater, a great powerplay guy...but you don't want him because of his faceoffs?

faceoffs?

really?

come on man. I get the attitude argument, but faceoffs? thats absurd. Have someone else take the faceoffs then, have Dominic Moore take every Rangers faceoff and change real quick to get him on the ice of need be. Faceoffs should never be a reason you dont sign a player.

Other than Dom Moore this isn't a strong point of our roster. And it's important. I'm not saying I wouldn't sign Riberio because of face-offs (I wouldn't sign him because he's a time bomb waiting to go off), but don't downplay the importance of face-offs.
 
Other than Dom Moore this isn't a strong point of our roster. And it's important. I'm not saying I wouldn't sign Riberio because of face-offs (I wouldn't sign him because he's a time bomb waiting to go off), but don't downplay the importance of face-offs.

The average top line center takes about 1500 faceoffs, 2nd line center is about 1100 and 3rd line is about 825

So i'm assuming most people see Ribeiro as either our 2nd or 3rd line center, so figure he takes about what...1,000 faceoffs? to make the numbers nice and easy?

So an absolute ELITE faceoff guy is at about 59%, but let's say you're happy with what Dominic Moore gives you, about 55%.

Ribeiro will likely give you about 45% give or take 2 % points depending on the year.

so that 10% difference is the difference between winning 450 faceoffs and 550 faceoffs

100 faceoffs extra won per 82 games works out to 1.2 extra faceoffs won per game.

1.2

that's it. 1 measely extra faceoff win.

And i think we will all agree that Ribeiro will be given the cushy starts that Richards and Brassard tend to get, so when we lose those faceoffs, its not neraly as detrimental as when you lose a defensive zone faceoffs.

In short. 1 faceoff per game, to me, is insignificant, and not a valid reason to not sign the guy.

Stepan is basically the same %, are you guys willing to walk away from him when his next contract is up because he doesnt win faceoffs?

I would hope not.

To me, faceoffs just isnt a valid reason to not sign a guy. I totally buy the attitude question, and, while I dont particularly care about it, I Understand why someone would, and would want to stay away.

To me, 60-70 point centers who are power play wizards, who could conceivably be signed for 1 million bucks, are games worth taking. 1 faceoff lost versus won per game isn't going to change that.
 
The only thing that worries me about Ribeiro is that both he and Brassard offer a questionable level of even strength play.
 
so, he's a high point producer, a good skater, a great powerplay guy...but you don't want him because of his faceoffs?

faceoffs?

really?

come on man. I get the attitude argument, but faceoffs? thats absurd. Have someone else take the faceoffs then, have Dominic Moore take every Rangers faceoff and change real quick to get him on the ice of need be. Faceoffs should never be a reason you dont sign a player.

People have made valid points about Ribeiro's flaws and I was simply pointing out things that hadn't been mentioned, like the fact that he's not good on face offs and is also a defensive liability. If Ribeiro was still a "high point producer" like you said, then I would be less concerned about the other parts of his game, but he scored 47 points last season and at 34, I don't know if that was an aberration or a sign of things to come.

Bringing Stepan into the face off conversation was pretty silly, to say the least. Stepan's 24, with his best years ahead of him. Ribeiro is 34 and is on the downward side of his career.

There has been speculation about why the Yotes cut their ties with Ribeiro and if he has certain personal issues he needs to deal with, then I'd rather he do that somewhere else than in NY.
 
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