Pre-Game Talk: 2013-2014 Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread Part 2

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Btw, here is Couture's playoff #'s:

49 games. 33 points

Stepan:

37 games. 14 points

Get the picture?

you literally just ignored the points that I made and did exactly wha.... never mind. It's like arguing with a dying raccoon. No matter what you say, they won't listen to it, understand it and will only keep on screaming incoherent things.
 
Drew I'm personally a fan of when we disagree with you we're all tweenyboppers that don't actually understand the game.
 
Here's more Drawbackachu logic


All of these young, teenybopper posters on here need to make a quantitative analysis like equation out of a player's stats in deciphering just how good they think they are when in reality, all you need is some good old fashioned common sense(which isn't always so common) to understand what a player is, what he is capable of doing and what his upside is.
There is a very good reason why most of a players are "no shows" in the playoffs most of the time. It has to do with tighter checking, more physical play and less room to skate and manuever. The munchkins which make up most of our roster just can't get it done when time and space is at a premium!


You dismiss what everyone is saying by making another facetious remark about our proper use and interpretation of numbers and stats by mocking it instead of coming up with a logical counterpoint. Then you undermine all that's being said against you by belittling posters and claiming that common sense is sufficient in figuring out who the better players is. Then you proceed to try and make a point using the very statistics that you discredited yourself by saying that our use of stats is not ideal. So our use of numbers and stats is invalid and yours is valid and our common sense and interpretation is baseless but your's isn't?

Btw, here is Couture's playoff #'s:

49 games. 33 points

Stepan:

37 games. 14 points

Get the picture?

Then you dismiss everything I said (because you don't have a valid response for) and start off by saying "btw". You're not even trying to comprehend what's being said anymore.
 
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Couture is the Sharks' franchise player, Giroux is the Flyers franchise player, Duchene is one of potentially 3 franchise player on the Avs, Stepan is no where near their level
 
Couture is the Sharks' franchise player, Giroux is the Flyers franchise player, Duchene is one of potentially 3 franchise player on the Avs, Stepan is no where near their level
I thought you were in bed, Devils fan.

And that's a ****** means of evaluation. The Rangers are a lot better than all of those teams.
 
Couture is the Sharks' franchise player, Giroux is the Flyers franchise player, Duchene is one of potentially 3 franchise player on the Avs, Stepan is no where near their level

seriously what is with this belief that Couture is eons better than Stepan? This season Stepan had 7 more points than him while playing about a mile better defense than him. I'd actually put Stepan ABOVE Couture.
 
Ignorant people telling people they need common sense makes me chuckle.

I'm definitely not a teen and I don't agree with the majority of the nonsense you spew.

You don't need to rely on stats, that's true, you can learn a lot more by watching and paying attention.

But shoving your opinion down people's throats, using exclamation points, and bringing up your advanced age as if it somehow makes you win by default is pretty silly.

Are you also one of those people who thinks the louder they talk the more relevant they are?
 
ignorant people telling people they need common sense makes me chuckle.

I'm definitely not a teen and i don't agree with the majority of the nonsense you spew.

You don't need to rely on stats, that's true, you can learn a lot more by watching and paying attention.

But shoving your opinion down people's throats, using exclamation points, and bringing up your advanced age as if it somehow makes you win by default is pretty silly.

Are you also one of those people who thinks the louder they talk the more relevant they are?

-31- johnc and i combine for more oldness than either one of you non-teenyboppers so hey.
 
I thought you were in bed, Devils fan.

And that's a ****** means of evaluation. The Rangers are a lot better than all of those teams.

So I'm a Devils' fan because I'm too negative I guess? A franchise player is a franchise player regardless of how ****** their teams are. And the reality is all 3 of those guys are better players
 
"This was the problem with intelligence. Even when you had the information, stubborn old men would believe what they wanted."
 
So I'm a Devils' fan because I'm too negative I guess? A franchise player is a franchise player regardless of how ****** their teams are. And the reality is all 3 of those guys are better players
No, because of your username. You've now not picked up on the exact same obvious joke twice.

The Devils franchise player is Andy Greene. Is he better than Stepan by default too?
 
So I'm a Devils' fan because I'm too negative I guess? A franchise player is a franchise player regardless of how ****** their teams are. And the reality is all 3 of those guys are better players

it was assumed you're a devils fan because you're from jersey and you're username is Clowe

it seems you thought clowe would actually stay in new york
 
the key fact that drew is leaving out is that stepan is a ranger. if drew was a sharks fan, i have no doubt he would be bashing couture and drooling over stepan.
 
"This was the problem with intelligence. Even when you had the information, stubborn old men would believe what they wanted."

FTFY

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