2002 Draft: 1st Round Re-do.

[leafaholix*]

Re-do the first round of the 2002 NHL Draft...

1. Rick Nash
2. Kari Lehtonen
3. Jay Bouwmeester
4. Joni Pitkanen
5. Ryan Whitney
6. Scott Upshall
7. Joffrey Lupul
8. Pierre-Marc Bouchard
9. Petr Taticek
10. Eric Nystrom
11. Keith Ballard
12. Steve Eminger
13. Alexander Semin
14. Christopher Higgins
15. Jesse Niinimaki
16. Jakub Klepis
17. Boyd Gordon
18. Denis Grebeshkov
19. Jakub Koreis
20. Daniel Paille
21. Anton Babchuk
22. Sean Bergenheim
23. Ben Eager
24. Alexander Steen
25. Cam Ward
26. Martin Vagner
27. Mike Morris
28. Jonas Johansson
29. Hannu Toivonen
30. Jim Slater

Second Round
Jeff Deslauriers
Janos Vas
Lee Felardeau
Tobias Stephan
Ondrej Nemec
Jarret Stoll
Tim Brent
Josh Harding
Brian McConnell
Rob Globke
Joakim Lindstrom
Marius Holtet
Trevor Daley
Matt Greene
Tomas Linhart
David LeNeveu
Alexei Kaygorodov
Alexei Shkotov
Kirill Koltsov
Sergei Anshakov
Anton Kadeykin
Dan Spang
Barry Tallackson
Duncan Keith
Denis Grot
Vladislav Evseev
Matthew Stajan
Jiri Hudler
Maxime Daigneault
Adam Henrich
Johnny Boychuk
Andrei Mikhnov
Tomas Fleischmann

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[thestonedkoala]

I'm sorry but what has Lupal, Whitney, and Upshall done more than Bouchard?

And why is Harding still in the second round. Could be a later first rounder with his numbers.

 

[leafaholix*]

That was the actual order of the 2002 draft.

I have yet to make my "re-do" list.

 

[SmokeyClause]

I'm sorry but what has Lupal, Whitney, and Upshall done more than Bouchard?

And why is Harding still in the second round. Could be a later first rounder with his numbers.

So, if a player has a decent (but not spectacular rookie season), they are all the sudden better than a player who didn't make his team out of camp? It's a rather large conclusion to make. PMB has done more than those 3 so far, but an NHL career isn't measured over the first 60 games. I mean, why not say Lasse Pirjeta in front of PMB, he's done more.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

1.Rick Nash
2.Kari Lehtonen
3.Jay Bouwmeester
4.Joni Pitkanen
5.Joffrey Lupul
6.Scottie Upshall
7.Pierre-Marc Bouchard
8.Ryan Whitney
9.Eric Nystrom
10.Steve Eminger
11.Keith Ballard
12.Alexander Semin
13.Petr Taticek
14.Chris Higgins
15.Jesse Ninnimaki
16.Boyd Gordon
17.Denis Grebeshkov
18.Jakub Klepis
19.Sean Bergenheim
20.Josh Harding
21.Matt Stajan
22.Alexander Steen
23.Cam Ward
24.Anton Babchuk
25.Jiri Hudler
26.Martin Vagner
27.Kirill Koltsov
28.Mike Morris
29.Jeff Deslauriers
30.Jarret Stoll


I'm not too familiar with the others, so I'll leave them.

 

[thestonedkoala]

That was the actual order of the 2002 draft.

I have yet to make my "re-do" list.

My mistake

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I'm sorry but what has Lupal, Whitney, and Upshall done more than Bouchard?

And why is Harding still in the second round. Could be a later first rounder with his numbers.

Yeah, that was the original draft order. But, I'd take Lupul and Upshall over PMB, though. Lupul looks like a future Rocket Richard winner, and Upshall looks like one of the best two-way forces the NHL will see in a couple years. Whitney, though, is not better than him.

 

[thestonedkoala]

True Bouchard will never win a Rocket Richards award but I see him more like Sakic or Forsberg, dishing out a ton of assists to Gaborik, Dupuis, and anyone else on his line. He has such great stick handling abilities to go along with his amazing vision that he's pretty dang good.

 

[Hitman*]

That draft was so much of a crap shoot after the top 7 picks that its really hard to re-do it now. Based on current performance Matt Lombardi is a 1st Rounder.

Right now, the only thing I'd change is having JayBo going #1, but we all know why he didn't.

 

[leafaholix*]

1. Rick Nash
2. Kari Lehtonen
3. Jay Bouwmeester
4. Joni Pitkanen
5. Joffrey Lupul
6. Scott Upshall
7. Pierre-Marc Bouchard
8. Steve Eminger
9. Ryan Whitney
10. Denis Grebeshkov
11. Alexander Semin
12. Eric Nystrom
13. Petr Taticek
14. Keith Ballard
15. Alexander Steen
16. Boyd Gordon
17. Christopher Higgins
18. Anton Babchuk
19. Daniel Paille
20. David LeNeveu
21. Sean Bergenheim
22. Cam Ward
23. Jesse Niinimaki
24. Matthew Stajan
25. Jakub Koreis
26. Kirill Koltsov
27. Josh Harding
28. Martin Vagner
29. Jeff Deslauriers
30. Trevor Daley

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

That draft was so much of a crap shoot after the top 7 picks that its really hard to re-do it now. Based on current performance Matt Lombardi is a 1st Rounder.

Right now, the only thing I'd change is having JayBo going #1, but we all know why he didn't.

Though Jay-Boom should've gone first, Rick Nash is looking better and better. I just think he may become the better of the two. Pitkanen and Lehtonen haven't even played yet, so either could prove to be better than them.

 

[leafaholix*]

Pitkanen's played like 13 games in Philadelphia and leads all rookies in +/-.

 

[Brock]

1. Jay Bouwmeester
2. Joni Pitkanen
3. Rick Nash
4. Kari Lehtonen
5. PM Bouchard
6. Scott Upshall
7. Joffrey Lupul
8. Steve Eminger
9. Denis Grebeshkov
10. Ryan Whitney
11. Alexander Semin
12. Chris Higgins
13. Alexander Steen
14. Kiril Koltsov
15. Trevor Daley
16. Jessi Niniimaki
17. Keith Ballard
18. Jiri Hudler
19. Matthew Stajan
20. Sean Bergenheim
21. David Leneveu
22. Boyd Gordon
23. Jeff Deslauriers
24. Jarrett Stoll
25. Hannu Toivonen
26. Eric Nystrom
27. Anton Babchuk
28. Daniel Paille
29. Alexei Kaigorodov
30. Matthew Lombardi

Edit: After looking it over cloesly, I did a little tinkering to the bottom of the list, mostly around Daniel Paille.

 

[A Good Flying Bird*]

Wings Prospect Tomas Fleischmann is lighting up the WHL.
He might just be a steal when all is said and done./

 

[Jeffrey]

1. Jay Bouwmeester
2. Joni Pitkanen
3. Rick Nash
4. Kari Lehtonen
5. PM Bouchard
6. Scott Upshall
7. Joffrey Lupul
8. Steve Eminger
9. Denis Grebeshkob
10. Ryan Whitney
11. Alexander Semin
12. Chris Higgins
13. Alexander Steen
14. Kiril Koltsov
15. Trevor Daley
16. Jessi Niniimaki
17. Keith Ballard
18. Jiri Hudler
19. Matthew Stajan
20. Sean Bergenheim
21. David Leneveu
22. Boyd Gordon
23. Daniel Paille
24. Jeff Deslauriers
25. Jarrett Stoll
26. Eric Nystrom
27. Anton Babchuk
28. Hannu Toivonen
29. Alexei Kaigorodov
30. Matthew Lombardi

THE PERFECT LIST GOOD JOB BROCK!

 

[Vagrant]

1. Jay Bouwmeester

30. Matthew Lombardi

No Cam Ward, Brock? Why not?

 

[Brock]

No Cam Ward, Brock? Why not?

Well to be honest, He'd be number 31. Was the last cut off the list I made. I just think that there are some better prospects, all the while it's very close. Cam Ward is an excellent goalie, don't get me wrong, it's just that IMO the guys I have ahead of him are slightly better prospects/players, especially the "lower rated" goalies I have ahead of him like Leneveu, Deslauriers or Toivonen. The 2002 draft is slowly looking to be a very solid draft.

 

[Vagrant]

Well to be honest, He'd be number 31. Was the last cut off the list I made. I just think that there are some better prospects, all the while it's very close. Cam Ward is an excellent goalie, don't get me wrong, it's just that IMO the guys I have ahead of him are slightly better prospects/players, especially the "lower rated" goalies I have ahead of him like Leneveu, Deslauriers or Toivonen. The 2002 draft is slowly looking to be a very solid draft.

Well it just struck me strange to see Leneveau and Toivonen ranked above him, but I'll respect your opinion on that. I was just wondering what made you leave him off. It doesn't seem like he's done much to change his position and he and Josh Harding were the best goalies in the WHL last season.

 

[Brock]

Well it just struck me strange to see Leneveau and Toivonen ranked above him, but I'll respect your opinion on that. I was just wondering what made you leave him off. It doesn't seem like he's done much to change his position and he and Josh Harding were the best goalies in the WHL last season.

I think a case could definitely be made either way, just a matter of opinion. Maybe it's just that sometimes I have jitters when it comes to rating WHL goaltending prospects high because of the string of bad luck that WHL goalie prospects have gone through in recent years.

 

[Sampe]

As far as the Finns go, my ranking would be the following:

1) Kari Lehtonen
2) Joni Pitkänen

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3) Hannu Toivonen
4) Jesse Niinimäki
5) Sean Bergenheim
6) Jarkko Immonen (the older one)

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the rest

 

[DutchLeafsfan]

6) Jarkko Immonen (the older one)

That would be 'our' Jarkko Immonen right?

 

[stardog]

Yeah, that was the original draft order. But, I'd take Lupul and Upshall over PMB, though. Lupul looks like a future Rocket Richard winner, and Upshall looks like one of the best two-way forces the NHL will see in a couple years. Whitney, though, is not better than him.

I think thats kinda premature to say considering Whitney has never been to an NHL camp and played the entire last season injured....give it some time before we say that. You may turn out to be right but it is way to early to say that.

 

[Sampe]

That would be 'our' Jarkko Immonen right?

Yes, I believe so. You got yourselves a steal with the 254th overall pick.

 

[Predatore]

A re-do over the Swedish prospects that were drafted.

This was the actual order

Round Overall Team Player 
1 #24 Toronto Alexander Steen 
1 #28 Colorado Jonas Johansson 
2 #41 Columbus Joakim Lindström 
3 #81 NY Rangers Marcus Jonasén 
4 #101 Pittsburgh Daniel Fernholm 
4 #111 Edmonton Jonas Almtorp 
4 #120 St Louis Robin Jonsson 
4 #125 Ottawa Johan Björk 
4 #131 Detroit Johan Berggren 
5 #149 NY Islanders Marcus Paulsson 
5 #159 Calgary Kristofer Persson 
7 #204 Minnesota Nicklas Eckerblom 
7 #207 Calgary Pierre Johnsson 
7 #221 St Louis Jonas Johnsson 
9 #262 Detroit Christian Söderström 
9 #269 Minnesota Mika Hannula 
9 #272 Washington Patric Blomdahl 
9 #274 Edmonton Fredrik Johansson 
9 #283 NY Islanders Per Braxenholm 
9 #285 Toronto Staffan Kronwall 
9 #291 Detroit Jonathan Ericsson

This is how I would draft 'em now

1) Alexander Steen
2) Jonas Johansson
3) Joakim Lindström
4) Staffan Kronwall
5) Marcus Jonasén
6) Marcus Paulsson
7) Robin Jonsson
8) Patric Blomdahl
9) Fredrik Johansson
10) Daniel Fernholm
11) Jonas Almtorp
12) Pierre Johnsson
13) Johan Berggren
14) Jonathan Ericsson
15) Johan Björk
16) Nicklas Eckerblom
17) Kristofer Persson
18) Christian Söderström
19) Per Braxenholm

Mika Hannula (overager)
Jonas Johnsson (overager)

 

[Blatny Spears]

This is my homer post for the day, but I think Jim Slater would still slip into the first round if the draft were redone. He's got 15 points in 9 games and was named captain as a junior at Michigan State. He hits like a ton of bricks too.