1978 Habs - what would they look like if there was a salary cap?

[tinyzombies]

What would their respective salaries be today?

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[JianYang]

Was bunny highly touted? Looks like he was paid pretty good money to be a backup to Dryden.

Meanwhile, Gainey is making peanuts considering his importance to the club.

 

[tinyzombies]

Was bunny highly touted? Looks like he was paid pretty good money to be a backup to Dryden.

Meanwhile, Gainey is making peanuts considering his importance to the club.

I think both Dryden and Lafleur signed their contracts a few years earlier and the salary structure changed a bit so they end up underpaid even by these standards.

 

[Habs]

that was massive money back in the day, when fans were lucky to make 15k a year lol

 

[BenchBrawl]

It's a myth that hockey players earned low salaries.

Even in the early days of the 20th century players gave up other sports to play hockey because it paid better.

Maybe not comparable to today, relative to the average worker, but still well above average.

 

[tinyzombies]

that was massive money back in the day, when fans were lucky to make 15k a year lol

A duplex in NDG was 25k. Today probably 1.2m?

That puts Lafleur at $3.5m salary or so compared to today? When really he’d be getting $10-11m now (although he had signed long term a few years before so maybe $8m)?

 

[BenchBrawl]

A duplex in NDG was 25k. Today probably 1.2m?

That puts Lafleur at $3.5m salary or so compared to today?

If the duplex was 25k, his salary was ~7 times that with 180k.

If the duplex is 1.2m, then his salary would be ~8.4m.

Of course the price of a duplex is not the most exact measure, but I like it.

Today, a player like Lafleur would win 12m, so he would make more than he did back then, but it's still in the same stratosphere.

 

[Bombshell11]

that was massive money back in the day, when fans were lucky to make 15k a year lol

Not really...today 100k salary is about avg for someone with experience (being generous), Suzuki makes 8mils, 10.5 mil after conversion, thats a 105x of an average fan today.

in the 80s even at 10k is only 15x from a guy like Savard

in the 80s 105x from Savard's salary would equal 1476$/year ... the avg salary of the 80s was 22k and the poverty line was under 11k.

Let that sink in.

When you compute every number this means the vast majority of the population is living under the 80s poverty line.

We're effectively all slaves and we love it.

 

[tinyzombies]

If the duplex was 25k, his salary was ~7 times that with 180k.

If the duplex is 1.2m, then his salary would be ~8.4m.

Of course the price of a duplex is not the most exact measure, but I like it.

Today, a player like Lafleur would win 12m, so he would make more than he did back then, but it's still in the same stratosphere.

Oh right… well I never said I was an accountant lol.. with Lafleur you have to look at the salary structure when he signed in 1975. So he probably would be underpaid at $8-9m is my guess.

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You look at just the currency:

 

[JianYang]

I think both Dryden and Lafleur signed their contracts a few years earlier and the salary structure changed a bit so they end up underpaid even by these standards.

Yeah, it's still surprising though.

It's like when Svoboda signed with the Habs and all of a sudden made more money than Larry Robinson. You understand that times are changing but there's something really eye opening about it regardless.

 

[Habs]

Not really...today 100k salary is about avg for someone with experience (being generous), Suzuki makes 8mils, 10.5 mil after conversion, thats a 105x of an average fan today.

in the 80s even at 10k is only 15x from a guy like Savard

in the 80s 105x from Savard's salary would equal 1476$/year ... the avg salary of the 80s was 22k and the poverty line was under 11k.

Let that sink in.

When you computer every number this means the vast majority of the population is living under the 80s poverty line.

We're effectively all slaves and we love it.

my parents first house was bought in 71 for 12k, with a 30 year mortgage. my dad made 16k and we felt like we were in the upper class lol. The buying power was so much stronger, until the interest rates hit 20% in the 80's, then everything was lost.

 

[Bombshell11]

my parents first house was bought in 71 for 12k, with a 30 year mortgage. my dad made 16k and we felt like we were in the upper class lol. The buying power was so much stronger, until the interest rates hit 20% in the 80's, then everything was lost.

Yep, its all about buying power. We make more money now than before but we're 10x poorer.

 

[tinyzombies]

Yep, its all about buying power. We make more money now than before but we're 10x poorer.

That’s why I pegged the salary conversion to the difference in the price of a duplex from 1978 to now.

 

[Habs]

Yep, its all about buying power. We make more money now than before but we're 10x poorer.

inflation never stops, the printing of money is insane.

 

[Bombshell11]

inflation never stops, the printing of money is insane.

I don't understand who gave them the right to print money to begin with.
This whole thing is a sham wow

 

[Cournoyer12]

Was bunny highly touted? Looks like he was paid pretty good money to be a backup to Dryden.

Meanwhile, Gainey is making peanuts considering his importance to the club.

Bunny usually got the easier games , not that he wasn’t a fine goaltender, but there was only one Dryden!

 

[tinyzombies]

Bunny usually got the easier games , not that he wasn’t a fine goaltender, but there was only one Dryden!

Bunny had shown flashes and Dryden had become tired of taking the beating and had one leg in retirement. But as his biography says that was probably 1978-79. Bowman really felt he had to whip that team because they had a lot of miles on them.

Some fans had started asking for Bunny and wondered if he really could do the job just as well since Dryden had declined somewhat at that point. And there were those who might have had a political inclination and wanted yo know why the French goalie wasn’t starting as the late 70s was a politically charged time. Not sure if the majority of those people were really hockey fans or not. I know the kid Ms all loved Bunny but that might also have been because of his nickname lol.

 

[schwang26]

Bunny had shown flashes and Dryden had become tired of taking the beating and had one leg in retirement. But as his biography says that was probably 1978-79. Bowman really felt he had to whip that team because they had a lot of miles on them.

Some fans had started asking for Bunny and wondered if he really could do the job just as well since Dryden had declined somewhat at that point. And there were those who might have had a political inclination and wanted yo know why the French goalie wasn’t starting as the late 70s was a politically charged time. Not sure if the majority of those people were really hockey fans or not. I know the kid Ms all loved Bunny but that might also have been because of his nickname lol.

I never found Dryden to be as great as his numbers. That was a crazy stacked team after all. Sure he was good. Great at times. But looking back, was he really THAT great? I don’t think he was. I was pretty young in the 70’s and didn’t really follow super closely until the late 70’s.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I never found Dryden to be as great as his numbers. That was a crazy stacked team after all. Sure he was good. Great at times. But looking back, was he really THAT great? I don’t think he was. I was pretty young in the 70’s and didn’t really follow super closely until the late 70’s.

1971… he beat two legit powerhouses. We stopped winning cups as soon as he left too.

 

[tinyzombies]

I never found Dryden to be as great as his numbers. That was a crazy stacked team after all. Sure he was good. Great at times. But looking back, was he really THAT great? I don’t think he was. I was pretty young in the 70’s and didn’t really follow super closely until the late 70’s.

Progress makes things relative. The league had not really seen anything like him when he first came in. A guy that tall with fast feet. If he was coming up today he’d be playing the profly style (really an evolution brought about by knee stacks, which he didn’t have). If Carey Price grew up then he’d look like Ken Dryden. Everything else is conjecture. But the position became about size and athleticism and he had both of those things in reserve. He was also flexible in what was demanded by the style of the day, so I have no doubt he would have been great today. He definitely had the demeanor.

 

[slybel]

Possible 7 players over 9mil. eck!

 

[Chili]

For the most part, the Habs had the depth to cover losing guys like JC Tremblay, Marc Tardif, Frank Mahovlich, etc. to the WHA. For sure others got offers too including Lafleur, Dryden, Savard, they would have gotten pay bumps to stick around. Houle did go to the WHA but came back. Would be interesting to see the Habs salaries before the WHA started signing guys.

 

[Treb]

Lafleur 12M
Shutt 10M
Lemaire 9M
Houle 5M
Larouche 7M
Robinson 12M
Cournoyer 7M
Mondou 0.975M
Risebrough 6M
Savard 7M
Lambert 6M
Gainey 4M
Jarvis 0.975M
Lapointe 9M
Nyrop 4M
Tremblay 2.5M
Chartraw 1.5M
Bouchard 6M
Larocque 2M
Engblom 0.9M
Lupien 0.9M
Wilson 2M
Dryden 10.5M

Cap: 126.25 million

 

[JianYang]

I never found Dryden to be as great as his numbers. That was a crazy stacked team after all. Sure he was good. Great at times. But looking back, was he really THAT great? I don’t think he was. I was pretty young in the 70’s and didn’t really follow super closely until the late 70’s.

I think one of the most overlooked skills in a goalie is one who can stay in the game when his team is controlling the puck.

Dryden had to come up big in moments where he was cold, and alot of guys would struggle with that. I don't think there was anyone better at it. Brodeur was good at that too.

Also, in his pre-rookie year where the powerful bruins couldn't solve him, he showed he can flat out steal games too.

 

[Whalers Fan]

1971… he beat two legit powerhouses. We stopped winning cups as soon as he left too.

'71 was a great performance. To be fair, though, Dryden wasn't the only person who left after that last Cup win. Pollock, Bowman, Lemaire all left, too.