1930-31 Goalie Stats

[BM67]

NHL.com and Hockey-reference both have the same stats.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/NHL_1931_goalies.html

They have only 2 shared games, 1 each for the Sens and Maroons. I found 7, with 2 for the Quakers and 3 more for the Maroons.

The NHL records have changed since this was originally done. Their records now differ for 3 games.

They credit Walsh with a complete game on 11/25/1930 https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=YRQuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=SYwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=6394,4103960
They also have different splits on two Quaker games where Miller and Cude both played.

Home/Road

Player	Team	GP	Min	W	L	T/OT	GA	GAA	ShO	H GP	H Min	H W	H L	H T/OT	H GA	H GAA	H ShO	R GP	R Min	R W	R L	R T/OT	R GA	R GAA	R ShO
Bill Beveridge	OTS	9	520:00	0	8	0	32	3.69	0	6	340:00	0	5	0	15	2.65	0	3	180:00	0	3	0	17	5.67	0
Lorne Chabot	TOR	37	2300:00	21	8	8	80	2.09	6	20	1230:00	14	3	3	38	1.85	5	17	1070:00	7	5	5	42	2.36	1
Alec Connell	OTS	36	2190:00	10	22	4	110	3.01	3	17	1020:00	6	9	2	49	2.88	2	19	1170:00	4	13	2	61	3.13	1
Wilf Cude	PHQ	29	1740:00	2	22	3	127	4.38	1	12	724:00	1	9	1	44	3.65	0	17	1016:00	1	13	2	83	4.90	1
Dolly Dolson	DET	44	2750:00	16	21	7	105	2.29	6	22	1390:00	10	7	5	31	1.34	5	22	1360:00	6	14	2	74	3.26	1
Jake Forbes	PHQ	2	120:00	0	2	0	7	3.50	0	2	120:00	0	2	0	7	3.50	0	0	0:00	0	0	0	0	0.00	0
Charlie Gardiner	CHI	44	2710:00	24	17	3	78	1.73	12	22	1350:00	13	8	1	39	1.73	5	22	1360:00	11	9	2	39	1.72	7
Benny Grant	TOR	7	430:00	1	5	1	19	2.65	2	2	120:00	1	1	0	2	1.00	1	5	310:00	0	4	1	17	3.29	1
George Hainsworth	MTL	44	2740:00	26	10	8	89	1.95	8	22	1360:00	15	3	4	42	1.85	3	22	1380:00	11	7	4	47	2.04	5
Dave Kerr	MTM	32	1889:00	15	12	4	73	2.32	1	16	959:00	9	4	3	33	2.06	1	16	930:00	6	8	1	40	2.58	0
Joe Miller	PHQ	15	860:00	2	12	1	50	3.49	0	9	526:00	2	6	1	24	2.74	0	6	334:00	0	6	0	26	4.67	0
John Ross Roach	NYR	44	2760:00	19	16	9	87	1.89	7	22	1380:00	10	9	3	43	1.87	4	22	1380:00	9	7	6	44	1.91	3
Tiny Thompson	BOS	44	2730:00	28	10	6	90	1.98	3	22	1380:00	16	1	5	38	1.65	3	22	1350:00	12	9	1	52	2.31	0
Flat Walsh	MTM	16	841:00	5	6	2	33	2.35	2	8	411:00	4	1	1	15	2.19	1	8	430:00	1	5	1	18	2.51	1
Roy Worters	NYA	44	2760:00	18	16	10	74	1.61	8	22	1360:00	12	6	4	30	1.32	5	22	1400:00	6	10	6	44	1.89	3
Total	NHL	447	27340	187	187	66	1054	2.31	59	224	13670	113	74	33	450	1.98	35	223	13670	74	113	33	604	2.65	24

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Gardiner was the 1st team all-star, but lost the Vezina by giving up 8 goals in the second last game of the season. All-star voting had been done almost two months earlier, and officially released in early March.

Here is how the scoring levels had changed from the low in 1928-29 through the high in 1929-30 and back down in 1930-31.

1928-29 Total 1.39 GAA H/R 1.20/1.59
1929-30 Total 2.85 GAA H/R 2.46/3.23
1930-31 Total 2.31 GAA H/R 1.98/2.65

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[BM67]

For games with shot totals

Player	Team	GP	Min	W	L	T/OT	GA	GAA	Shots	Saves	SV%	ShO	SOG/60	H GP	H Min	H W	H L	H T/OT	H GA	H GAA	H Shots	H Saves	H SV%	H ShO	H SOG/60	R GP	R Min	R W	R L	R T/OT	R GA	R GAA	R Shots	R Saves	R SV%	R ShO	R SOG/60
Alec Connell	OTS	22	1330:00	6	13	3	58	2.62	761	703	0.924	1	34.33	12	710:00	3	7	2	31	2.62	383	352	0.919	0	32.37	10	620:00	3	6	1	27	2.61	378	351	0.929	1	36.58
Bill Beveridge	OTS	8	460:00	0	7	0	30	3.91	235	205	0.872	0	30.65	6	340:00	0	5	0	15	2.65	159	144	0.906	0	25.41	2	120:00	0	2	0	15	7.50	76	61	0.803	0	38.00
Opponents	NHL	29	1790:00	20	6	3	61	2.04	932	871	0.935	5	31.24	12	740:00	8	3	1	29	2.35	359	330	0.919	2	29.11	17	1050:00	12	3	2	32	1.83	573	541	0.944	3	32.74
Lorne Chabot	TOR	8	510:00	3	2	3	16	1.88	282	266	0.943	0	33.18	1	60:00	1	0	0	2	2.00	35	33	0.943	0	35.00	7	450:00	2	2	3	14	1.87	247	233	0.943	0	32.93
Benny Grant	TOR	4	250:00	1	2	1	5	1.20	121	116	0.959	2	29.04	1	60:00	1	0	0	0	0.00	31	31	1.000	1	31.00	3	190:00	0	2	1	5	1.58	90	85	0.944	1	28.42
Opponents	NHL	12	760:00	4	4	4	25	1.97	406	381	0.938	1	32.05	10	640:00	4	2	4	18	1.69	320	302	0.944	1	30.00	2	120:00	0	2	0	7	3.50	86	79	0.919	0	43.00
Wilf Cude	PHQ	29	1740:00	2	22	3	127	4.38	1069	942	0.881	1	36.86	12	724:00	1	9	1	44	3.65	353	309	0.875	0	29.25	17	1016:00	1	13	2	83	4.90	716	633	0.884	1	42.28
Jake Forbes	PHQ	2	120:00	0	2	0	7	3.50	67	60	0.896	0	33.50	2	120:00	0	2	0	7	3.50	67	60	0.896	0	33.50	0	0:00	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.000	0	0.00
Joe Miller	PHQ	15	860:00	2	12	1	50	3.49	431	381	0.884	0	30.07	9	526:00	2	6	1	24	2.74	246	222	0.902	0	28.06	6	334:00	0	6	0	26	4.67	185	159	0.859	0	33.23
Opponents	NHL	44	2720:00	36	4	4	76	1.68	1288	1212	0.941	8	28.41	22	1350:00	19	1	2	35	1.56	682	647	0.949	4	30.31	22	1370:00	17	3	2	41	1.80	606	565	0.932	4	26.54
Dolly Dolson	DET	20	1260:00	6	10	4	47	2.24	709	662	0.934	2	33.76	11	700:00	3	5	3	19	1.63	401	382	0.953	1	34.37	9	560:00	3	5	1	28	3.00	308	280	0.909	1	33.00
Opponents	NHL	20	1260:00	10	6	4	43	2.05	679	636	0.937	3	32.33	9	560:00	5	3	1	24	2.57	325	301	0.926	1	34.82	11	700:00	5	3	3	19	1.63	354	335	0.946	2	30.34
Charlie Gardiner	CHI	15	900:00	12	3	0	19	1.27	465	446	0.959	6	31.00	5	300:00	4	1	0	10	2.00	159	149	0.937	1	31.80	10	600:00	8	2	0	9	0.90	306	297	0.971	5	30.60
Opponents	NHL	15	900:00	3	12	0	49	3.27	464	415	0.894	1	30.93	10	600:00	2	8	0	24	2.40	260	236	0.908	1	26.00	5	300:00	1	4	0	25	5.00	204	179	0.877	0	40.80
George Hainsworth	MTL	13	810:00	10	1	2	22	1.63	348	326	0.937	4	25.78	3	190:00	2	0	1	10	3.16	76	66	0.868	0	24.00	10	620:00	8	1	1	12	1.16	272	260	0.956	4	26.32
Opponents	NHL	13	810:00	1	10	2	41	3.04	407	366	0.899	0	30.15	10	620:00	1	8	1	22	2.13	296	274	0.926	0	28.65	3	190:00	0	2	1	19	6.00	111	92	0.829	0	35.05
Tiny Thompson	BOS	22	1350:00	16	3	3	38	1.69	662	624	0.943	1	29.42	12	750:00	9	0	3	21	1.68	360	339	0.942	1	28.80	10	600:00	7	3	0	17	1.70	302	285	0.944	0	30.20
Opponents	NHL	22	1350:00	3	16	3	76	3.38	731	655	0.896	1	32.49	10	600:00	3	7	0	28	2.80	296	268	0.905	1	29.60	12	750:00	0	9	3	48	3.84	435	387	0.890	0	34.80
John Ross Roach	NYR	28	1760:00	16	6	6	41	1.41	876	835	0.953	7	30.03	18	1130:00	9	6	3	30	1.59	589	559	0.949	4	31.27	10	630:00	7	0	3	11	1.05	287	276	0.962	3	27.33
Opponents	NHL	28	1760:00	6	16	6	74	2.54	988	914	0.925	4	33.87	10	630:00	0	7	3	27	2.57	305	278	0.911	0	29.05	18	1130:00	6	9	3	47	2.50	683	636	0.931	4	36.27
Roy Worters	NYA	30	1900:00	16	6	8	39	1.23	884	845	0.956	7	27.92	21	1300:00	12	5	4	27	1.25	593	566	0.954	5	27.37	9	600:00	4	1	4	12	1.20	291	279	0.959	2	29.10
Opponents	NHL	30	1900:00	6	16	8	57	1.80	986	929	0.942	7	31.14	9	600:00	1	4	4	15	1.50	296	281	0.949	2	29.60	21	1300:00	5	12	4	42	1.94	690	648	0.939	5	31.85
Dave Kerr	MTM	12	740:00	6	5	1	29	2.35	396	367	0.927	0	32.11	3	180:00	3	0	0	4	1.33	84	80	0.952	0	28.00	9	560:00	3	5	1	25	2.68	312	287	0.920	0	33.43
Flat Walsh	MTM	5	310:00	1	3	1	9	1.74	143	134	0.937	1	27.68	1	60:00	1	0	0	0	0.00	26	26	1.000	1	26.00	4	250:00	0	3	1	9	2.16	117	108	0.923	0	28.08
Opponents	NHL	17	1050:00	8	7	2	35	2.00	568	533	0.938	2	32.46	13	810:00	8	3	2	22	1.63	423	401	0.948	2	31.33	4	240:00	0	4	0	13	3.25	145	132	0.910	0	36.25
Total	NHL	233	14300:00	97	97	36	537	2.25	7449	6912	0.928	32	31.25	117	7150:00	51	46	18	244	2.05	3562	3318	0.931	14	29.89	116	7150:00	46	51	18	293	2.46	3887	3594	0.925	18	32.62

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[Canadiens1958]

Great Work

Great work BM67.

 

[Nalens Oga]

Which of these guys ended up having notable careers? I think Chabot/Connell/Gardiner/Hainsworth/Kerr/Roach/Thompson/Worters?

 

[BM67]

Here are the Playoffs

Player	Team	GP	Min	W	L	T/OT	GA	GAA	ShO	H GP	H Min	H W	H L	H T/OT	H GA	H GAA	H ShO	R GP	R Min	R W	R L	R T/OT	R GA	R GAA	R ShO
Lorne Chabot	TOR	2	139:20	0	1	1	4	1.72	0	1	60:00	0	0	1	2	2.00	0	1	79:20	0	1	0	2	1.51	0
Charlie Gardiner	CHI	9	638:00	5	3	1	14	1.32	2	4	284:10	3	1	0	4	0.84	1	5	353:50	2	2	1	10	1.70	1
George Hainsworth	MTL	10	721:46	6	4	0	21	1.75	2	6	438:00	4	2	0	13	1.78	1	4	283:46	2	2	0	8	1.69	1
Dave Kerr	MTM	2	120:00	0	2	0	8	4.00	0	1	60:00	0	1	0	3	3.00	0	1	60:00	0	1	0	5	5.00	0
John Ross Roach	NYR	4	240:00	2	2	0	4	1.00	1	2	120:00	1	1	0	2	1.00	0	2	120:00	1	1	0	2	1.00	1
Tiny Thompson	BOS	5	343:06	2	3	0	13	2.27	0	2	138:56	1	1	0	5	2.16	0	3	204:10	1	2	0	8	2.35	0
Total	NHL	32	2202:12	15	15	2	64	1.74	5	16	1101:06	9	6	1	29	1.58	2	16	1101:06	6	9	1	35	1.91	3

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and for games with shot totals

Lorne Chabot	TOR	1	60:00	0	0	1	2	2.00	44	42	0.955	0	44.00	1	60:00	0	0	1	2	2.00	44	42	0.955	0	44.00	0	0:00	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.000	0	0.00
Opponents	NHL	1	60:00	0	0	1	2	2.00	46	44	0.957	0	46.00	0	0:00	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.000	0	0.00	1	60:00	0	0	1	2	2.00	46	44	0.957	0	46.00
Charlie Gardiner	CHI	6	384:50	3	2	1	7	1.09	206	199	0.966	2	32.12	3	204:50	2	1	0	3	0.88	88	85	0.966	1	25.78	3	180:00	1	1	1	4	1.33	118	114	0.966	1	39.33
Opponents	NHL	6	384:50	2	3	1	8	1.25	196	188	0.959	1	30.56	3	180:00	1	1	1	3	1.00	78	75	0.962	0	26.00	3	204:50	1	2	0	5	1.46	118	113	0.958	0	34.56
George Hainsworth	MTL	3	204:50	2	1	0	3	0.88	96	93	0.969	1	28.12	1	60:00	1	0	0	0	0.00	17	17	1.000	1	17.00	2	144:50	1	1	0	3	1.24	79	76	0.962	0	32.73
Opponents	NHL	3	204:50	1	2	0	5	1.46	93	88	0.946	0	27.27	2	144:50	1	1	0	3	1.24	66	63	0.955	0	27.34	1	60:00	0	1	0	2	2.00	27	25	0.926	0	27.00
Dave Kerr	MTM	1	60:00	0	1	0	5	5.00	40	35	0.875	0	40.00	0	0:00	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.000	0	0.00	1	60:00	0	1	0	5	5.00	40	35	0.875	0	40.00
Opponents	NHL	1	60:00	1	0	0	1	1.00	26	25	0.962	0	26.00	1	60:00	1	0	0	1	1.00	26	25	0.962	0	26.00	0	0:00	0	0	0	0	0.00	0	0	0.000	0	0.00
John Ross Roach	NYR	3	180:00	1	2	0	4	1.33	82	78	0.951	0	27.33	2	120:00	1	1	0	2	1.00	43	41	0.953	0	22.50	1	60:00	0	1	0	2	2.00	39	37	0.949	0	39.00
Opponents	NHL	3	180:00	2	1	0	5	1.67	107	102	0.953	2	35.67	1	60:00	1	0	0	0	0.00	22	22	1.000	1	22.00	2	120:00	1	1	0	5	0.00	85	80	0.941	1	42.50
Total	NHL	14	889:40	6	6	2	21	1.42	468	447	0.955	3	31.56	7	444:50	4	2	1	7	0.94	192	185	0.964	2	25.90	7	444:50	2	4	1	14	1.89	276	262	0.949	1	37.23

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[Sanf]

The book about Wilf Cude reminded me of this. NHL.com still has debut game of Cude wrong in their game logs.

Game ended 3-0

NHL has Cude playing 55 minutes, giving up 3 goals and having a loss from that game. Miller 5 minutes.

What actually happened was Miller started the game and the change happened according to one report "exactly half way throw the period" (second). All the game reports seem to agree that the change happened in second period.

So correct data would be both playing 30 minutes. Miller letting in 2 goals and Cude 1. And the loss should go to Miller.

Understandable that mistakes happen, but after the corrections they made few years ago it is slightly disapointing still.

 

[BM67]

The book about Wilf Cude reminded me of this. NHL.com still has debut game of Cude wrong in their game logs.

Game ended 3-0

NHL has Cude playing 55 minutes, giving up 3 goals and having a loss from that game. Miller 5 minutes.

What actually happened was Miller started the game and the change happened according to one report "exactly half way throw the period" (second). All the game reports seem to agree that the change happened in second period.

So correct data would be both playing 30 minutes. Miller letting in 2 goals and Cude 1. And the loss should go to Miller.

Understandable that mistakes happen, but after the corrections they made few years ago it is slightly disapointing still.

I have it (12/16/30) as Miller 34 min with 2 GA on 12 shots, and Cude 26 min with 1 GA on 15 shots. The Hockey Summary Project has it as a 30/30 split.

 

[Sanf]

I have it (12/16/30) as Miller 34 min with 2 GA on 12 shots, and Cude 26 min with 1 GA on 15 shots. The Hockey Summary Project has it as a 30/30 split.

That "exactly half way" comes from Daily News (New York) writer Norm Busch report. It has saves going 11 Miller 13 Cude. So shots 13-14. Though the article mentions Cude saving six before the bell and the boxscore gives only 5.

AP talks half way in second and Brookly Daily Eagle (New York) in the middle of the period. It´s possible that you have better source. Nevertheless NHL is way off in official results.

edit. I focused mostly on New York papers cause the game was played in Madison Square Garden against Americans. Did check few other also.

 

[BM67]

La Patrie, a french paper, has a period by period breakdown, and says Miller left about 12 minutes after the 2nd goal, so about 14:30 of the second period. A quick look around the other google papers I used mostly back then, doesn't turn up any other reports with a time or saves reported.

 

[Sanf]

La Patrie, a french paper, has a period by period breakdown, and says Miller left about 12 minutes after the 2nd goal, so about 14:30 of the second period. A quick look around the other google papers I used mostly back then, doesn't turn up any other reports with a time or saves reported.

Okay I did not use that one . And that is good to know that they have that. These are the bits from Daily News
(and possibly hockey summary project used this) edit. I have used on and off newspapers.com
.

 

[Sanf]

Could these early yearly stats be added to the sticky thread @Theokritos ? I know I every now and then get back to these (work of BM67). And need to use google to find these.

 

[Theokritos]

Could these early yearly stats be added to the sticky thread @Theokritos ? I know I every now and then get back to these (work of BM67). And need to use google to find these.

Good idea. I will add it.