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Revolutionary Positivity
I also remember, back when it was convenient as defense for the worst management in the NHL, that a player not passing through waivers was proof they're good.
He obviously has little to no trade value and not much on-ice value either. Otherwise he wouldn't get waived all the time. Caps fans are already fed up with him.
You understand the total on-ice impact, yeah?Caufield has a great shot, and is an agile skater, but he's pretty much DeBrincat II, that is, he'll score for a while, but he's awful on defense, and with that small body and lacking elite speed, once the dings and wear and tear erode his scoring skills, he'll be a disaster on a big second contract. Kind of guy you draft if you're already a good team and can shelter him and take advantage of his skill package.
The difference with Patrick Kane is his elite speed, he's still a black hole on defense, but his speed has allowed him to outscore his deficiencies for a decade.
I don't have a yes or no answer.No I don’t think that’s what you argued. Nor was it meant as an argumentative statement.
Do you think that MacEwen is a better offensive player than Frost? It’s a simple yes or no question.
DeBrincat has a cap hit of $6.4M, won't sign an extension and has a QO of $9M next year.
I wouldn't touch him at $9M. But some team will give him 7x9+.
Players like that often peak early in their career, but what upside does he have? What adjustments can he make as he ages?
Like I said, a great pick for a playoff team that can shelter him, use him on PP1 and get the most out of his scoring skills until his contract becomes onerous.
But not the kind of player I'd make the centerpiece for a rebuilding team.
I don't have a yes or no answer.
I think Frost is *supposed* to be the better offensive player.
That doesn't mean he has been.
Overall this season to date, I think MacEwen has been the more effective player in addition to outscoring him.
I believe Brown was -2 in &+ minutes of playing timeYes actually... them and I think Cates, Provy and TDA
I'm not a MacEwen fan. However, he is "engaging" on the ice, can skate (which is lacking up and down the flyers line-up) and noticeable (+ and -). Any team that has him anywhere except the 4th is a team that needs to rebuild, and he sould not be part of a re-build. That is my issue with him (actually with management).MacEwen had another good game. Anyone beating on him is doing so on reputation, not play.
Sucks they lost, but it was a fun game to watch.
That’s a big cop out, but then again I really didn’t expect you to answer it plainly.I don't have a yes or no answer.
I think Frost is *supposed* to be the better offensive player.
That doesn't mean he has been.
Overall this season to date, I think MacEwen has been the more effective player in addition to outscoring him.
Foerster's skating has greatly improved. He's never going to be a burner, so that needs to stop. He's incredibly solid and gets to where he needs to be with no struggle. There are players on the roster that are worse skaters than him, so that doesn't hold water. The guy's a shooter and in 46 AHL games, Foerster has 15 goals. That should be more than enough for a call up.After watching Foerster, I think he needs a year in the AHL and a summer working on his skating. He's 20, and he's not some uber-talent being buried, he's a skilled player with mediocre skating skills who needs work. And I wouldn't rush Desnoyers or Wisdom, they're also 20 and have missed some PT the last two seasons, again, don't rush them to appease bored fans.
Laczynski and Lycksell are probably the closest to NHL ready, and you might look at Marody, Brooks is still injured, I think.
Spot on. Any hockey player not named Crosby, Mathews, McDavid, etc, that gets saddled with 2 anchors is doomed to go down with themDid you learn anything from watching Hayes getting Frost's usual usage?
I see you're doing the thing where you're too afraid to outright say you think a player is better so you'll just heavily insinuate it, like you did with Hagg.
Who do you think has been the better offensive player so far this season: Frost or MacEwen?That’s a big cop out, but then again I really didn’t expect you to answer it plainly.
Well that’s not the question I asked you, but in terms of pure production, MacEwen has been better. Even in terms of being involved in chances MacEwen has been better.Who do you think has been the better offensive player so far this season: Frost or MacEwen?
The dude was waived after camp & you’re acting like management planned all along for him to have a middle-six role.I believe Brown was -2 in &+ minutes of playing time
I'm not a MacEwen fan. However, he is "engaging" on the ice, can skate (which is lacking up and down the flyers line-up) and noticeable (+ and -). Any team that has him anywhere except the 4th is a team that needs to rebuild, and he sould not be part of a re-build. That is my issue with him (actually with management).
No, not a "bad" player, a "limited" player.You're shifting the goalposts.
You scoffed at Caulfield as being "Debrincat II" as if he's a bad player. Which was ridiculous.
Then we pretty much agree, except I want Frost to *be* the better offensive player before I declare he *is* the better offensive player.Well that’s not the question I asked you, but in terms of pure production, MacEwen has been better. Even in terms of being involved in chances MacEwen has been better.
But, I believe Frost is a better offensive player, and given the right linemates, such as last night, it’s not really a close comparison, regardless of the 2A’s MacEwen had last night.
I mean, Frost is, has always been, and will always be a better offensive player than MacEwen. And just because Mac had outscored him in a few games, doesn’t automatically change that fact.Then we pretty much agree, except I want Frost to *be* the better offensive player before I declare he *is* the better offensive player.
Shouldn’t be too much to ask.
Of course Frost is the better offensive player, and MacEwen is playing too high in the lineup, of course, so is Frost. Everyone is.Well that’s not the question I asked you, but in terms of pure production, MacEwen has been better. Even in terms of being involved in chances MacEwen has been better.
But, I believe Frost is a better offensive player, and given the right linemates, such as last night, it’s not really a close comparison, regardless of the 2A’s MacEwen had last night.
"kid needs to learn to play the right way..Caufield scoring makes me happy.
This is the correct answer. Thank you for proving my point.Of course Frost is the better offensive player
Do don’t think this keeps up long term, but maybe. But right now, I don’t mind him as a 4W with a center like Sedlak or Cates.IF he keeps this up he may have a role on a 3rd line that's an "energy line," because he does bring energy and a physical presence.
Can we just give him like 30 games with consistent offensive linemates before saying this? You might not be wrong, but he was one of the better offensive junior players and has been derailed a bit by injuries since turning pro, not to mention just a terrible development plan for offensive production.Frost's problem is he's a good offensive player, but looks like he's never going to be more than "good," that is, he simply can't translate workouts (elite speed in training tests) to the ice with the puck, nor does he have "it," the elusive quality that great offensive players possess (Giroux), nor the gonzo attack of TK (that Tippett is developing)
I just want to see it.I mean, Frost is, has always been, and will always be a better offensive player than MacEwen. And just because Mac had outscored him in a few games, doesn’t automatically change that fact.
And, I think it’s okay to say that and admit that. In fact if one doesn’t admit Frost is a better offensive player than MacEwen, I would say there is something wrong with one’s eye or they have an agenda.
No, not a "bad" player, a "limited" player.
One trick pony, a really good trick (Caufield has a great wrist shot) but . . .