Value of: 11th overall pick
- Thread starter Beerz
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Unfortunately, Montreal has nothing that can be spared and of this value, so there’s no match here. Good luck with your search
blinkman360
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Pulock from the Isles, if he's willing to waive his NTC. We'd probably need a decent prospect back as well.
I think the Isles will look to shake up the core a bit this offseason. Pulock, Nelson, Palmieri. Martin and Clutterbuck both gone. Possibly Lee if they can figure out a way to make it work.
I think the Isles will look to shake up the core a bit this offseason. Pulock, Nelson, Palmieri. Martin and Clutterbuck both gone. Possibly Lee if they can figure out a way to make it work.
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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Dvorak, easily worth 11th +++, but for this one day only, you'll be able to get him for a 2nd, or a 3rd.
This offer is good for a year.
Jake Evans might be available, who's a much better player, but isn't worth the 11th overall still.
Why top of bottom 6 wingers ? Joel Armia, who wasn't the best recently did well this season and that's with him being sent down to the AHL. Set career highs in goals, big gut who's a menace down low. Again, not worth a whole lot.
Michael Pezzetta - gotta imagine he's gone/they're looking for an upgrade on him. Throws the most hits /60, limited skill. Not the best fighter, but can win some, but he's mostly a punching bag as he goes up against players ahead of his weight class.
In short, Dvorak - hurt a lot, but good on faceoffs, might just need a change of scenery. Evans, very good and underrated in his way, based on the rumours of Boys being worth a first, Evans should be then as he's better than Boyd.
Pezzetta, not worth much. Rights to Brett Murray and a 6th in 2025 ? Not worth much.
This offer is good for a year.
Jake Evans might be available, who's a much better player, but isn't worth the 11th overall still.
Why top of bottom 6 wingers ? Joel Armia, who wasn't the best recently did well this season and that's with him being sent down to the AHL. Set career highs in goals, big gut who's a menace down low. Again, not worth a whole lot.
Michael Pezzetta - gotta imagine he's gone/they're looking for an upgrade on him. Throws the most hits /60, limited skill. Not the best fighter, but can win some, but he's mostly a punching bag as he goes up against players ahead of his weight class.
In short, Dvorak - hurt a lot, but good on faceoffs, might just need a change of scenery. Evans, very good and underrated in his way, based on the rumours of Boys being worth a first, Evans should be then as he's better than Boyd.
Pezzetta, not worth much. Rights to Brett Murray and a 6th in 2025 ? Not worth much.
Zach716
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It’s hard to see Buffalo willing to be locked into age 33-35 Pulock at 6.1m during the prime of their window with Dahlin, Sammy and Power all locked up long term and Byram needing a new contract soon. Love Pulock but it kills the Sabres flexibility on the backend
Voight
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An 11th. overall better be a true 3C with the ability to play key minutes. And with two years term minimum. Bottom 6 wingers? Pass. A tough winger like Evander Kane (who doesn't have the same baggage) would be worth a 1st.
My personal opinion is you package the 1st with another top prospect like Rosen or even Seguin and look for serious quality with the term.
I will tell you one thing, we give up a 1st for a Cody Eakin level guy and I might be done. Let's hope team does its homework.
tsujimoto74
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It's hilarious that PHI writers seem to keep pushing this. Like, they watch the guy. They HAVE to know he's not worth anything close to that.
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Would love to try and find a way to make something work, but short of the Vancouver pick going back with whatever we're trading, I'm not sure we have something that truly tempts you at this point.
Habs Halifax
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I'd offer a aggressive quality package. Someone like Ylonen or Farrell could step into your roster now in the bottom 6 and then you get a solid futures package. I'd say Mesar needs one AHL year.
* Jets 1st (24-27 range)
* Mesar (drafted 26th in the 22 draft). I would project him as a Middle 6F. D+2 was very solid this year. Very fast with good play making/vision type. Needs to add some muscle
* Avs 2nd
* Choice from the following (as the NHL piece you could use now): Harris, Ylonen, Farrell.
Leafs don’t have much to offer but here it goes anyway
Nick Robertson (middle sixer with a great shot, paced for 20 goals last year with 11 minutes TOI)
Timothy Liljegren (#4 RHD, cost controlled, decent defensively, good in transition, decent offensively)
2024 first round pick (I think it’s 23rd overall?)
Rights to Tyler Bertuzzi (as a throw in, I know this has like 7th round pick value)
Or let’s get crazy
John Tavares (50% retention, bonus paid by TOR)
Mitch Marner (50% retention, bonus paid by TOR)
Timothy Liljegren
For
11th overall
Bowen Byram
Nick Robertson (middle sixer with a great shot, paced for 20 goals last year with 11 minutes TOI)
Timothy Liljegren (#4 RHD, cost controlled, decent defensively, good in transition, decent offensively)
2024 first round pick (I think it’s 23rd overall?)
Rights to Tyler Bertuzzi (as a throw in, I know this has like 7th round pick value)
Or let’s get crazy
John Tavares (50% retention, bonus paid by TOR)
Mitch Marner (50% retention, bonus paid by TOR)
Timothy Liljegren
For
11th overall
Bowen Byram
tsujimoto74
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No, the only point of making 11 available is to make the Sabres better *now*. We have more than enough futures already.
You start by stating in bold QUALITY PACKAGE but then offer:
1. A player who won't be resigned;
2. A project 3-4 line tweener;
3. A late first drafted two years ago who has yet to justify his draft status; and
4. A late 1st in a draft where after the top 15, takes a nose dive.
This is the epitome of lots of scraps for a quality piece. Buffalo is bloated with quality prospects, so they don't need MORE futures. I think the OP was offering the pick for something immediate, like an established 3C, top 6 winger, etc. This does nothing to address their needs.
Figgy44
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With the cap structure that the Sabres have going into the next season, how much cap space do they even have to add such players? There's like 12 million in raises on the back end and zero goalies on contract/extensions requirements.
That Skinner contract is major ouch. We can relate with our Huberdeau one.
That Skinner contract is major ouch. We can relate with our Huberdeau one.
Sure, you could offer them. Then realize they have NTCs they wouldn't waive, have the NHL void the deal and then get Ottawaed losing 2 future first rounders for being... unscrupulous. As a fan of Montreal... DO IT!!!
LOL, to move up 1 x spot in a draft where 8-15 are interchangeable?
Of course they don't do that.
Sabresruletheschool
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You went crazy alright. Give up the 11th and Byram for two one year contracts and Liljegren. And thats IF the would agree to the trade. At least make it so Buffalo would have something to think about.
John Tavares
Mitch Marner
Timothy Liljegren
Toronto first
For
11th overall
Bowan Byram
Jeff Skinner
Buffalo 4th
That would at least give Buffalo something to think about.
Zirakzigil
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I could see the Flames being interested in swapping with the Vancouver pick and a bottom 6 player.
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