PuckLuck3043
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They played exactly the opposite of tonight for long stretches last year. Lets give them more than 1 game.
Post-Game Talk: #1 - 01/14/21 | islanders @ RANGERS
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They played exactly the opposite of tonight for long stretches last year. Lets give them more than 1 game.
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Young team, abbreviated camp, no preseason games.
Everyone (or most) should calm the f*** down.
Everyone (or most) should calm the f*** down.
egelband
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Bushwhacked indeed. But it was an “accident” so it’s a-ok, I heard.
but same can be said about the Islanders. We have no excuses all teams are in the same situation.
TheBloodyNine
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They played exactly like this for too many games over the last handful of seasons. Let's not throw that away completely and pretend like it's only one game.
Pointing out a persistent issue isn't being an over reactionary game 1 fan. There are plenty of over reactionary, silly posts that do warrant a "cool it" so maybe you lumped mine in bc it's late. But through this thread I get a lot of #imarealfan vibes from your posts
Not sure if it’s the same play but Leddy beat Two Rangers while on his ass and backhanded the puck deep into our zone
we all knew there'd be games like this...just part of growing pains. but there were some hard things to digest even allowing for all the above. the veteran leaders were terrible....beginning to wonder if the monstars stole panarins talent last march. kreider was a complete no show, especially physically/energy wise - can't score every game but can be a leader and provide energy/emotion. mika/buch/strome i don't remember seeing. the kids i don't blame as much...sure there's still nerves even for a guy like kakko, and its hard for them to really take over - over the course of the season hopefully they begin to take the role of drivers, but in a game like tonight they needed veterans to lead and build off of that and they got nothing. i did like gauthier and chytil...both looked so much better physically and more involved. defense not much good...trouba at least had some snarl though not enough. fox looked really slow - hopefully a one off but he was just out of it. k'andre was not good - he is just too easy to walk right around, he stops moving his feet at all...i don't get it but i didn't see someone nearly as ready as he sounded. still hope there though - may just have been an ugly first game. jack...jesus murphy. i was on the lets see how it goes train but wow was that hard to watch.
but all of that is just evaluating one game of players who didn't have the best circumstances to succeed going into it. wouldn't shock me to watch this team in 48 hours and picture a playoff run. no good or bad can really be indicative of anything right now in a performance sense. what really was worrisome though was seeing absolutely no heart in this group. the run at chytil was a scumbag play - the refs letting it go was baffling. but how does no one respond? then someone took a run at laf and nothing. then later in the 3rd down 4-0 your rival smokes your goalie and you stand there doing nothing....thats a gutless team. unlike performance that doesn't get coached away or have rust shaken off of. you either have it in your room or you don't. to be clear i'm not saying every borderline hit needs to be answered with a fight...but there is a point where you gotta be a teammate and do something to respond. if its not fighting go throw one or 3 of those on barzal...something. be a team. until we have a team its just going to be ups and downs
but all of that is just evaluating one game of players who didn't have the best circumstances to succeed going into it. wouldn't shock me to watch this team in 48 hours and picture a playoff run. no good or bad can really be indicative of anything right now in a performance sense. what really was worrisome though was seeing absolutely no heart in this group. the run at chytil was a scumbag play - the refs letting it go was baffling. but how does no one respond? then someone took a run at laf and nothing. then later in the 3rd down 4-0 your rival smokes your goalie and you stand there doing nothing....thats a gutless team. unlike performance that doesn't get coached away or have rust shaken off of. you either have it in your room or you don't. to be clear i'm not saying every borderline hit needs to be answered with a fight...but there is a point where you gotta be a teammate and do something to respond. if its not fighting go throw one or 3 of those on barzal...something. be a team. until we have a team its just going to be ups and downs
17futurecap
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The same reason Chad Krys isn't playing for the Hawks, he isn't good enough right now.
Machinehead
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fredrikstad
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Do they really though?
Hughes got bullied all of last year and is allergic to scoring goals. Dach got some primo minutes with Kane towards the end of last year.
The hyperbole tonight is ridiculous and his overall analytics based off of this game alone are really not reflective with how he played.
His issues are really 2 fold...
1. He isn't good at getting the puck back when he doesn't have it, this should be a major area of focus for him, this is coachable.
2. His best work comes from the dots inwards.
In a game where Panarin was basically dishing pucks out to the Islanders like he was playing for them, #1 was really exaggerated in the statistics (almost all of his xGA can be attributed to Panarin. I don't think he did anything egregious defensively but I'd have to go back and look at the tape to make sure and I'd rather not) and #2 couldn't come into fruition. In fact, I'd say that the coaching staff has done a really, really poor job putting him in a position to use his strengths and last year, tried to turn him into a player that he wasn't (along with him losing his wind like after 20 games.)
But here is the good news, when Panarin decides that he wants to start playing like a good player again, #2 is something that should become MUCH easier for him to do. I don't know if this is the best line for him, but they should stick with it for a while and see what it looks like when Panarin is Panarin instead of what ever the hell he was tonight.
I just don't get where all the hate is coming from. Its one game where our best player was our worst forward and happened to be on Kakko's line.
Anybody understand how the refs missed goalie interference of the goal that was challenged by Quinn?
One game does not a season make, though I have two questions for the Metric posters among us. Out of the 31 NHL teams, where would you rate our LD corp? Out of the 31 NHL teams, where would you rate on Center Iceman Corp?
I dont know how you did it but you found someone who agrees with you more than your old cohost.
Machinehead
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Yeah, like, I don't understand why we even needed to challenge that.
I don't wanna make a big deal about it in a 4-0 game but that was one of the worst officiated games I've seen in awhile.
K’Andre Miller seemed like he did not wish to handle the puck. I imagine that will subside quickly.
Just finished watching...What a boring ass game. Literally nothing even remotely exciting. Whatever, game 1. Be better on Saturday.
AlaBlueShirt
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The whole team came in to play unprepared. You can’t afford to play games like this, especially when there are only 56 games to played.
Young team, first game of the season, the leaders didn't show up, 4829229 penalties. Hopefully, we don't take 4829229 penalties next game so our young guys can get more into the flow of the game, and our veterans actually show up. There was really nothing positive to take from this game. We can only hope it was a complete fluke and we start to play hockey on Saturday.
Anthony5967
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Too many overreactions. I thought every player stunk. 55 more games to go. I wanted a split two games in. They have played four games in the last 10 months. They are also a young team and can only get better by playing games and getting more familiar with one another. However, this really is a make or break year for the coach. I do agree with the lack of development. So what Panarin and Zibanejad turned into stars under him and Fox is a stud. What about Chytil, Gauthier, Kakko, etc, etc? They still play with ZERO structure or a defensive conscience. After four years you still don't have a solid system implemented? Gorton worries me a tad too because he and Davidson felt the need to bring in Johnson, and as someone said, Smith will play Saturday but it won't be at the expense of Johnson, that I know. Not under this coach. That's where he will begin to lose me. Let's see what happens Saturday night.
Anthony5967
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Also, the blogger boys who are never wrong were crying and foaming at the mouth for Trouba and the guy has been absolutely horrendous since he has been here. Starting to think he's a solid RH shot on the second pair on a very good team and was sheltered on an absolutely stacked WPG team.
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