Final Rankings:
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I named those my final rankings but I might make slight alterations until draft.
Remarks:
- Dahlin is decidedly ranked at #1, while Svechnikov is decidedly ranked at #2 with Svechnikov being a lot closer to 1 than 3.
- 3rd overall is a toss up for me, with the top11 all being very close. Small alterations in the algorithm or data entered (approximate playing time/quality of linemates) or scouting evaluations could have potentially placed either Wahlstrom, Zadina or Dobson instead of Kotkaniemi at #3 since they are all very close.
Data taken into account:
- Age, height, weight.
- Scouting evaluation; Skating speed, edge work, shooting, puck control, offensive IQ, competitiveness, physical play, defensive play. (Those evaluations are impacting the statistical evaluation, both sources of data are tested again each other in different ways.)
- Last 3 seasons stats in all leagues played; League difficulty, ice time, quality of teammates, organizational depth, (regular+playoff) GP, G, A, PTS and if available A1, A2, Sh%, relative +/-. Tournament play: WJC18, WJC20, Hlinka.
(The statistics are used as an indicator of performance, but where the player stands in terms of organizational depth is also weighted, those two are weighted differently according to the algorithm depending on the context of each player, for example, independently of statistics being 2nd line SHL on draft eligible year mean something and can be measured as a value.)
* On rare occasions some players are given positive or negative bonuses if something of relevancy hasn't been taken into account by the software, example; injury prone, attitude issue, extra international play.
Last year (comparison with this year rankings is imperfect; algorithm revamped):
Software evaluating draft eligible player
Previous drafting results (drafting as MTL for the last 5 years):
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...-can-now-start-comparing-the-results.2430975/
Previous 2018 draft rankings:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...0-end-of-the-regular-season-rankings.2471469/
If you have questions about the functionality of the software (such as why I use scouting evaluations (post #51 in that thread)) it probably has been answered in that thread.
Why use software to evaluate prospects?
Forwards entered in the software (scoring higher than 43):
DY: Draft year. DY-1: 1 year before draft. DY-2: 2 years before draft.
The first section (with DY, DY-1, DY-2) are the evaluations of each prospect season performance calculated by the software based on the data entered.
The second section shows the percentage taken into account in the final score, it varies depending on the games/tournaments played for each season.
The third section shows the player's style of play which is automatically generated based on the scouting evaluation I entered for the player.
Defensemen entered in the software (scoring higher than 43):
DY: Draft year. DY-1: 1 year before draft. DY-2: 2 years before draft.
The first section (with DY, DY-1, DY-2) are the evaluations of each prospect season performance calculated by the software based on the data entered.
The second section shows the percentage taken into account in the final score, it varies depending on the games/tournaments played for each season.
Best re-eligible players/overagers:
Best draft eligible goaltenders:
Other notable prospects (excluding goaltender):
(D) Nico Gross, OHL
(F) David Lilja, Allsvenskan
(D) Sean Comrie, AJHL
(F) Carl Berglund, SuperElit
(F) Jackson Leppard, WHL
(D) Dawson Barteaux, WHL
(F) Max Golod, OHL
(D) Mac Hollowell, OHL +1
(D) Ondrej Buchtela, Czech2
(D) Dennis Busby, OHL
(F) Krisitan Reichel, WHL +1
(D) Marc Del Gaizo, USHL
(D) Thomas Gregoire, QMJHL +2
(F) Damien Giroux, OHL
(F) Jake Goldowski, OHL
(D) Jack St. Ivany, USHL +1
(D) Christian Lindberg, Allsvenkan
(F) Angus Crookshank, BCHL
(F) Ryan Roth, OHL
(F) Yegor Sharangovich, KHL +2
(F) Ivan Muranov, MHL
(D) Tyler Tucker, OHL
(F) David Levin, OHL
(F) Alexei Polodyan, VHL +2
(F) Kristian Tanus, JrA-Liiga
(F) Samuel Bucek, USHL +1
(F) German Grachyov, MHL
(F) Trey Fix-Wolansky, WHL +1
(F) Alex Gritz, OHL
(F) Adam Liska, OHL
(F) Luke Burghardt, OHL +2
(D) Zack Malik, OHL
(D) Adam Thilander, OHL +1
(D) Peter Stratis, OHL
(D) Jacob Semik, USHL
(F) Zach Solow, NCAA +1
(D) Artyom Minulin, WHL +1
(F) Aleksi Halme, Mestis
(D) Owen Lalonde, OHL
(F) Maxime Grondin, OHL
(F) Adam Gajarsky, Czech2
(F) Razat Timirov, MHL +1
(F) Oliver Okuliar, Slovakia
(F) Demetrios Koumontzis, USHS
(F) Mitchell Hoelscher, OHL
(F) Connor Dewar, WHL +1
(D) Christian Krygier, USHL
(F) Jeremy Mckenna, QMJHL +1
(F) Albert Michnac, OHL +1
(F) Tristen Nielsen, WHL
(F) Brandon Saigeon, OHL +2
(D) Dillon Plouffe, WHL +1
(F) William Moskal, OHL
(D) Dennis Busby, OHL
(D) Cole Krygier, USHL
(F) Joel Teasdale, QJMHL +1
(F) Hunter Holmes, OHL
(D) Radim Salda, QMJHL +1
(F) Carson Focht, WHL
(F) Cole Reinhardt, WHL
(F) Eli Zummack, WHL
(F) Thomas Ethier, QMJHL
(D) Spencer Meier, USHL +1
(D) Alex Kannok-Leipert, WHL
(D) Tommy Miller, NCAA +1
(F) Carl Jakobsson, SuperElit
(D) Benjamin Gleason, OHL +2
(D) William Worge Kreu, SuperElit
(F) Yegor Zudilov, WHL
(F) Samuel Bitten, OHL
(F) Ryan Savage, USHL
(F) Conner Bruggen-Cate, WHL
(F) Kevin Hancock, OHL +2
(F) Tyler Popowich, WHL
(F) Ivan Kosorenkov, QMJHL +2
(D) Martin Bodak, WHL +1
(F) Colin Schmidt, USHS
(F) Alexander Zhabreyev, MHL
(F) Leif Mattson, WHL +1
(D) Peetro Seppala, JrA-Liiga
(F) Jan Kalus, Czech2
(D) Quinn Yule, OHL
(F) Riley Hughes, USHS
Text version:
NAME |
Rasmus Dahlin |
Andrei Svechnikov |
Jesperi Kotkaniemi |
Olivier Wahlstrom |
Filip Zadina |
Noah Dobson |
Quinn Hughes |
Evan Bouchard |
Adam Boqvist |
Brady Tkachuk |
Vitaly Kravtsov |
Joseph Veleno |
Joel Farabee |
Ty Smith |
Jonatan Berggren |
Serron Noel |
Martin Kaut |
Mattias Samuelsson |
K'Andre Miller |
Alexander Alexeyev |
Barrett Hayton |
Ty Dellandrea |
Bode Wilde |
Rasmus Kupari |
Isac Lundestrom |
Filip Hallander |
Grigori Denisenko |
Ryan Merkley |
Liam Foudy |
Dominik Bokk |
Jonny Tychonick |
Bulat Shafigullin |
Jared McIsaac |
Jan Jenik |
Akil Thomas |
David Gustafsson |
Niklas Nordgren |
Jesse Ylonen |
Jacob Olofsson |
Jack McBain |
Ryan Mcleod |
Kirill Marchenko |
Calen Addison |
Kevin Bahl |
Rasmus Sandin Albin Eriksson |
Allan McShane |
Jacob Bernard-Docker |
Jake Wise |
Jay O'Brien |
Ivan Morozov |
Nils Lundkvist |
Stanislav Demin |
Jachym Kondelik |
Alec Regula |
Jack Drury |
Nicolas Beaudin |
Martin Fehervary |
Jett Woo |
Carl Wassenius |
Ty Emberson |
Jakub Lauko |
Benoit-Olivier Groulx |
Danila Zhuravlyov |
Cam Hillis |
Ryan O'Reilly |
Philipp Kurashev |
Milos Roman |
Xavier Bernard |
Johnny Gruden |
Libor Zabransky |
Sampo Ranta |
Adam Ginning |
Alexander Khovanov |
Aidan Dudas |
Blade Jenkins |
Riley Sutter |
S. Der-Arguchintsev |
Xavier Bouchard |
Luka Burzan |
Cole Fonstad |
Blake Mclaughlin |
Adam Mascherin |
Filip Kral |
Tyler Weiss |
Olivier Rodrigue |
Curtis Douglas |
Sean Durzi |
Nathan Dunkley |
Ruslan Iskhakov |
Linus Karlsson |
Matthew Struthers |
Dmitri Zavgorodny |
Gabriel Fortier |
Kyle Topping |
Jacob Ragnarsson |
Nando Eggenberger |
Axel Andersson |
Giovanni Vallati |
Chase Wouters |
Curtis Hall |
Filip Johansson |
Tyler Madden |
Logan Hutsko |
Lukas Dostal |
Toni Utunen |
Spencer Stasney |
Anderson MacDonald |
Pavel Gogolev |
Scott Perunovich |
Jakub Skarek |
Marcus Westfalt |
Alex Steeves |
Riley Stotts |
Alexis Gravel |
Amir Miftakhov |
Krystof Hrabik |
Nikolai Kovalenko |
Jordan Harris |
Oscar Back |
Yegor Sokolov |
Patrick Khodorenko |
Jacob Ingham |
Justin Brazeau |
Martin Pospisil |
Brendan Budy |
Vladislav Kotkov |
Danila Galenyuk |
Liam Kirk |
Shawn Boudrias |
Justus Annunen |
Lukas Wernblom |
Severi Lahtinen |
Eric Florchuk |
Karel Plasek |
Kevin Mandolese |
Michal Kvasnica |
Linus Nyman |
Connor Roberts |
Kirill Nizhnikov |
Matej Pekar |
Vlasislav Yeryomenko |
Jordan Koy |
Samuel Fagemo |
Joey Keane |
Gavin Hain |
Adam Samuelsson |
Adam McCormick |
Jacob Pivonka |
Merrick Rippon |
Veini Vehvilainen |
Caleb Everett |
Riley Damiani |
Paul Cotter |
Kody Clark |
Jack Perbix |
Jerry Turkulainen |
Matthias Laferriere |
Ryan Chyzowski |
Einar Emanuelsson |
Johan Sodergran |
Nikita Rtishchev |
Luke Henman |
Declan Chisholm |
Carter Robertson |
Olof Lindbom |
Jack Deboer |
Jack Randl |
Patrick Giles |
Alexander Romanov |
Justin Almeida |
Mathias E. Petterson |
Erik Middendorf |
Austin Wong |
Pavel Shen |
Lenni Killinen |
Michael Kesselring |
Jaxon Nelson |
Demid Mansurov |
Simon Johansson |
Nikita Rozhkov |
Connor Corcoran |
Micha Ivan |
Wyatte Wylie |
Joel Hofer |
Santeri Salmela |
Mikhail Shalagin |
Marcus Karlberg |
Nico Gross |
David Tendeck |
Divid Lilja |
Sean Comrie |
Carl Berglund |
Zachary Bouthillier |
Jackson Leppard |
Dawson Barteaux |
Max Golod |
Mac Hollowell |
Akira Schmid |
Ondrej Buchtela |
I named those my final rankings but I might make slight alterations until draft.
Remarks:
- Dahlin is decidedly ranked at #1, while Svechnikov is decidedly ranked at #2 with Svechnikov being a lot closer to 1 than 3.
- 3rd overall is a toss up for me, with the top11 all being very close. Small alterations in the algorithm or data entered (approximate playing time/quality of linemates) or scouting evaluations could have potentially placed either Wahlstrom, Zadina or Dobson instead of Kotkaniemi at #3 since they are all very close.
Data taken into account:
- Age, height, weight.
- Scouting evaluation; Skating speed, edge work, shooting, puck control, offensive IQ, competitiveness, physical play, defensive play. (Those evaluations are impacting the statistical evaluation, both sources of data are tested again each other in different ways.)
- Last 3 seasons stats in all leagues played; League difficulty, ice time, quality of teammates, organizational depth, (regular+playoff) GP, G, A, PTS and if available A1, A2, Sh%, relative +/-. Tournament play: WJC18, WJC20, Hlinka.
(The statistics are used as an indicator of performance, but where the player stands in terms of organizational depth is also weighted, those two are weighted differently according to the algorithm depending on the context of each player, for example, independently of statistics being 2nd line SHL on draft eligible year mean something and can be measured as a value.)
* On rare occasions some players are given positive or negative bonuses if something of relevancy hasn't been taken into account by the software, example; injury prone, attitude issue, extra international play.
Last year (comparison with this year rankings is imperfect; algorithm revamped):
Software evaluating draft eligible player
Previous drafting results (drafting as MTL for the last 5 years):
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...-can-now-start-comparing-the-results.2430975/
Previous 2018 draft rankings:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...0-end-of-the-regular-season-rankings.2471469/
If you have questions about the functionality of the software (such as why I use scouting evaluations (post #51 in that thread)) it probably has been answered in that thread.
Why use software to evaluate prospects?
"I firmly believe that this software can be a useful tool to support the evaluation of prospects, in fact, I would even go as far as to say that it has the potential to give better results than the standard way of evaluating players. When I started doing the exercise of creating my own rankings of draft eligible players I quickly realize how complex of a mental process it is considering all the variables of evaluation that have to be taken into account when evaluating a player (speed, skill, shot, defensive game, compete level, age, offensive production, quality of teammates, league difficulty, ice time, height, weight, tournament play, etc, etc, while assessing to each criteria their degree of importance), inevitably some criteria of evaluation become overvalued or undervalued. Once you start comparing two players the mental process increase in complexity, recalling every relevant information about each player, gaging each gap between the players and assessing which accumulation of gaps outweigh the other, the increase in complexity inevitably creates more room for misjudgment. At that point, if two scouts are arguing about two prospects a fight of will must take over to a certain extent since the analysis of the objective subtleties that differentiate the players can't be addressed in his totality. As a matter of fact, we face ourselves against the limitation of our brain even when isolating simple variables easy to grasp, even the ones who are already objectively defined for us can lead to misevaluation, let’s take the age of player for example, the brain can't associate a precise value for each day of the year, instead, for the sake of simplification, the brain will tend to reduce the number of values by regrouping to a single value weeks or entire month or possibly closer months with one another. This can be seen as a marginal difference that might not have a considerable impact, but those marginal differences can be found everywhere, they add up and their sum can make noticeable differences, even more so if you have a bias towards a specific player your brain will unconsciously selectively favored the regrouping of values in a manner that will confirm your bias opinion. But most importantly, this software eases the process of evaluation by isolating each variable of evaluation in order to come to a final value, the brain performs much better at assessing the most precise value possible to one single variable at the time than taking everything into account at once in order to come to a final value. For those reasons, I firmly believe that if the exercise of assessing the most exact value possible to each isolated variable is done properly with the help of a software it will undeniably give results of greater accuracy."
"The human brain has limitation in regards to his precision (exact value attributed to a prospect playing in a certain league at a certain point in time considering his specific date of birth), consistency in evaluation (I give the exact same value to that player as for each other player in that same context, if it is a slightly different context the value is slightly altered proportionally) and processing power (quantity of variables factored in to precision at the same time, looking at all that data at once), those are three major limitations which software does not have, I believe that there is potential there to be exploited in the scouting hockey world."
Forwards entered in the software (scoring higher than 43):
DY: Draft year. DY-1: 1 year before draft. DY-2: 2 years before draft.
The first section (with DY, DY-1, DY-2) are the evaluations of each prospect season performance calculated by the software based on the data entered.
The second section shows the percentage taken into account in the final score, it varies depending on the games/tournaments played for each season.
The third section shows the player's style of play which is automatically generated based on the scouting evaluation I entered for the player.
Defensemen entered in the software (scoring higher than 43):
DY: Draft year. DY-1: 1 year before draft. DY-2: 2 years before draft.
The first section (with DY, DY-1, DY-2) are the evaluations of each prospect season performance calculated by the software based on the data entered.
The second section shows the percentage taken into account in the final score, it varies depending on the games/tournaments played for each season.
Best re-eligible players/overagers:
- (F) Adam Mascherin, OHL +2
- (D) Sean Durzi, OHL +1
- (F) Logan Hutsko, NCAA +1
- (D) Scott Perunovich, NCAA +2
- (F) Patrick Khodorenko, NCAA +1
- (F) Justin Brazeau, OHL +2
- (F) Shawn Boudrias, QMJHL +1
- (F) Severi Lahtinen, Mestis +1
- (F) Linus Nyman, OHL +1
- (D) Vladislav Yeryomenko, WHL +1
- (D) Joey Keane, OHL +1
- (G) Veini Vehvilainen, SM-Liiga +3
- (F) Jerry Turkulainen, SM-Liiga +1
- (F) Einar Emanuelsson, SHL +3
- (F) Justin Almeida, WHL +1
- (F) Pavel Shen, KHL +1
- (D) Simon Johansson, SuperElit +1
- (F) Mikhail Shalagin, MHL +1
Best draft eligible goaltenders:
- (G) Olivier Rodrigue, QMJHL
- (G) Lukas Dostal, Czech2
- (G) Jakub Skarek, Czech2
- (G) Alexis Gravel, QMJHL
- (G) Amir Miftakhov, MHL
- (G) Jacob Ingham, OHL
- (G) Justus Annunen, Jr.A Liiga
- (G) Kevin Mandolese, QJMHL
- (G) Jordan Koy, OHL
- (G) Veini Vehviläinen, Liiga +3
- (G) Olof Lindbom, SuperElit
- (G) Joel Hofer, WHL
- (G) David Tendeck, WHL
- (G) Zachary Bouthillier, QMJHL
- (G) Akira Schmid, Elite Jr. A
Other notable prospects (excluding goaltender):
(D) Nico Gross, OHL
(F) David Lilja, Allsvenskan
(D) Sean Comrie, AJHL
(F) Carl Berglund, SuperElit
(F) Jackson Leppard, WHL
(D) Dawson Barteaux, WHL
(F) Max Golod, OHL
(D) Mac Hollowell, OHL +1
(D) Ondrej Buchtela, Czech2
(D) Dennis Busby, OHL
(F) Krisitan Reichel, WHL +1
(D) Marc Del Gaizo, USHL
(D) Thomas Gregoire, QMJHL +2
(F) Damien Giroux, OHL
(F) Jake Goldowski, OHL
(D) Jack St. Ivany, USHL +1
(D) Christian Lindberg, Allsvenkan
(F) Angus Crookshank, BCHL
(F) Ryan Roth, OHL
(F) Yegor Sharangovich, KHL +2
(F) Ivan Muranov, MHL
(D) Tyler Tucker, OHL
(F) David Levin, OHL
(F) Alexei Polodyan, VHL +2
(F) Kristian Tanus, JrA-Liiga
(F) Samuel Bucek, USHL +1
(F) German Grachyov, MHL
(F) Trey Fix-Wolansky, WHL +1
(F) Alex Gritz, OHL
(F) Adam Liska, OHL
(F) Luke Burghardt, OHL +2
(D) Zack Malik, OHL
(D) Adam Thilander, OHL +1
(D) Peter Stratis, OHL
(D) Jacob Semik, USHL
(F) Zach Solow, NCAA +1
(D) Artyom Minulin, WHL +1
(F) Aleksi Halme, Mestis
(D) Owen Lalonde, OHL
(F) Maxime Grondin, OHL
(F) Adam Gajarsky, Czech2
(F) Razat Timirov, MHL +1
(F) Oliver Okuliar, Slovakia
(F) Demetrios Koumontzis, USHS
(F) Mitchell Hoelscher, OHL
(F) Connor Dewar, WHL +1
(D) Christian Krygier, USHL
(F) Jeremy Mckenna, QMJHL +1
(F) Albert Michnac, OHL +1
(F) Tristen Nielsen, WHL
(F) Brandon Saigeon, OHL +2
(D) Dillon Plouffe, WHL +1
(F) William Moskal, OHL
(D) Dennis Busby, OHL
(D) Cole Krygier, USHL
(F) Joel Teasdale, QJMHL +1
(F) Hunter Holmes, OHL
(D) Radim Salda, QMJHL +1
(F) Carson Focht, WHL
(F) Cole Reinhardt, WHL
(F) Eli Zummack, WHL
(F) Thomas Ethier, QMJHL
(D) Spencer Meier, USHL +1
(D) Alex Kannok-Leipert, WHL
(D) Tommy Miller, NCAA +1
(F) Carl Jakobsson, SuperElit
(D) Benjamin Gleason, OHL +2
(D) William Worge Kreu, SuperElit
(F) Yegor Zudilov, WHL
(F) Samuel Bitten, OHL
(F) Ryan Savage, USHL
(F) Conner Bruggen-Cate, WHL
(F) Kevin Hancock, OHL +2
(F) Tyler Popowich, WHL
(F) Ivan Kosorenkov, QMJHL +2
(D) Martin Bodak, WHL +1
(F) Colin Schmidt, USHS
(F) Alexander Zhabreyev, MHL
(F) Leif Mattson, WHL +1
(D) Peetro Seppala, JrA-Liiga
(F) Jan Kalus, Czech2
(D) Quinn Yule, OHL
(F) Riley Hughes, USHS